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Went back to OE style filter #4666182
02/14/18 07:53 PM
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Opened the air box and found sand on top of the filter.... yeah, more proof that k&n should be a track only mod.

Ran filter for about 5k to see how it performed. $50 lesson that a paper filter is best for a daily driver


2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 181 miles M1 HM 10w-30
Re: Went back to OE style filter [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4666196
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At least you had learned a valuable lesson. Thanks for sharing.


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Re: Went back to OE style filter [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4666206
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Congrats! I know there are some here who have also seen silicon drop in their UOA using "conventional" aftermarket (Wix) air filters vs. Motorcraft. I think it was Garak?


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Re: Went back to OE style filter [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4666243
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I haven't run a paper filter for a while other than a Fram on the Forester, but I haven't had any negative impact with the K&N on my Odyssey, either. The fleece-style filters I think are probably some of the better-filtering ones. But I haven't made one of those crazy ail-filter test contraptions, either. smile

Re: Went back to OE style filter [Re: Nyogtha] #4666249
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Wasn't me, but such things may have been seen here. As an aside, I have used a fair number of Motorcraft air filters, particularly in my youth. When I had my LTD, the round air filters from Canadian Tire were only their house brand ones (made by Fram to CT specifications, which meant significantly fewer pleats and less media), so I was using Motorcraft. For the most part, since then, I've used Wix and Fram, but wouldn't hesitate to grab an OEM air filter, particularly if it was an application where fit always seemed problematic.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: Went back to OE style filter [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4666257
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Thanks Garak.

Maybe 2015_PSD when he was 2010_FX4 then - I think that's right.


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Re: Went back to OE style filter [Re: Nyogtha] #4666389
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Yes, that's quite possible. He did run a bunch of UOAs, for sure.


Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, NAPA Gold 7356
1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515
Re: Went back to OE style filter [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4666423
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I have a nice K&N for a Ford Ranger free if you pay shipping of $10. PM if interested. Came out of mine, run about 1 year, cleaned and oiled.
I went back to paper but hate to throw it away as some folks have use for them.


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Re: Went back to OE style filter [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4666610
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I have a way of describing K&N air filters... Aka "chicken wire".


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Re: Went back to OE style filter [Re: bbhero] #4666617
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Originally Posted By: bbhero
I have a way of describing K&N air filters... Aka "chicken wire".


Letís be firm but fair ... you know itís at least a screen door wink


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Re: Went back to OE style filter [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4666808
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I don't know how indicative of anything it was...but the only well maintained vehicle I ever had a serious issue with used a K&N air filter for 40K plus miles and there was sand/grit and odd particulate inside the air box upon inspection. I was scrupulous on making sure there's a tight fit and scrupulous on scheduled inspections.

I won't use a K&N again whether the filter caused, helped, or was associated with my engine problem that included VVT actuator failure and eventual de facto engine failure. Unfortunately, they couldn't pin it to one cause. The cost/benefit ratio of 1:4 with a K&N vs. paper filter against any real gains on a smaller displacement engine just wasn't worth it in my estimation. It seems most feel something similar.


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