Recent Topics
$5 off Mobil 1 High Mileage - Ibotta and Walmart
by ThirdeYe
02/19/18 11:30 AM
Mobil 1 EP and AP for 6-10k drains?
by Patman
02/19/18 10:52 AM
What Are You Doing?
by Red91
02/19/18 09:09 AM
Vibe; 1ZZ-FE, under vc, 265k miles
by MarkM66
02/19/18 08:50 AM
Modular and manufactured homes.
by CT8
02/19/18 08:46 AM
Upgrade Electrical System - Briggs Twin
by TWG1572
02/19/18 08:26 AM
Who Knows About LED's ??
by billt460
02/19/18 08:25 AM
Michigan accepts Canada's trash in landfills
by ZZman
02/19/18 08:16 AM
Lost my wife to a drunk driver
by KD0AXS
02/19/18 07:49 AM
Boutique oil vs. Major oil company's
by gmh101357
02/19/18 06:01 AM
My Honda Accord...major blowby..or..? (vid inside)
by TurboTravis
02/19/18 05:06 AM
Toyota 04152-YZZA5
by dlundblad
02/19/18 03:39 AM
TPMS sensor bad
by MuzzleFlash40
02/19/18 01:19 AM
Toyota filters deserve more cred.
by DrRoughneck
02/19/18 12:40 AM
Discount Tire rim maintenance
by oilboy123
02/18/18 11:53 PM
Cleaning "drive-by-wire" throttle body
by DrRoughneck
02/18/18 11:13 PM
edge 0w40 on Amazon $21
by andrewp1998
02/18/18 10:32 PM
2014 Ford Taurus awd
by Corollaman
02/18/18 09:53 PM
[Cut Open] Microgreen MG-101-7 1783mi
by DuckRyder
02/18/18 09:21 PM
Where’s the best deal on case of Mobil1 synth ATF?
by sgc2c
02/18/18 08:18 PM
Newest Members
514avn, Okapi77, MrWaker, iflylow, marichardson
64222 Registered Users
Who's Online
110 registered (ammolab, 2015_PSD, another Todd, 2K2AcuraTL, AnthemBassMan, 8 invisible), 1844 Guests and 101 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
64222 Members
65 Forums
278383 Topics
4645772 Posts

Max Online: 3590 @ 01/24/17 08:07 PM
Donate to BITOG
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >
Topic Options
#4665395 - 02/14/18 12:53 AM What are we paying for?
Camprunner Offline


Registered: 02/19/08
Posts: 936
Loc: MA.
As I stand here in the oil section at WM and I look at all the 5 quart jug options I have noticed that price wise they are all pretty close with a few $ separating the cheep jug to the most expensive. So the question is if all the oils for a car meet the same specifications what am I paying for? Advertising? The best looking jug? I guess I am a sceptic that spending the few $ more for that five quart jug will really make a hill of beans difference in say a 7,000 mile OCI over 200-300,000 miles?

Top
#4665396 - 02/14/18 01:03 AM Re: What are we paying for? [Re: Camprunner]
Nick1994 Offline


Registered: 02/19/13
Posts: 9441
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
That warm fuzzy feeling
_________________________
2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L 72k M1 AFE 0w30 & OEM
2000 Toyota Camry 2.2L 227k M1 AFE 0w30 & Wix
1996 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L 145k Napa 10w30 & Fram Ultra

Top
#4665402 - 02/14/18 01:28 AM Re: What are we paying for? [Re: Camprunner]
expat Offline


Registered: 05/12/09
Posts: 5336
Loc: Canada
Marketing.

Top
#4665404 - 02/14/18 01:32 AM Re: What are we paying for? [Re: Camprunner]
Wolf359 Online   content


Registered: 04/27/12
Posts: 4106
Loc: MA
That's what branding is all about. If it meets specs for your car, you're good to go. Even Supertech, Walmart's in house brand is a good oil.

Top
#4665405 - 02/14/18 01:44 AM Re: What are we paying for? [Re: Wolf359]
bbhero Online   content


Registered: 03/20/15
Posts: 4030
Loc: Virginia
^^^^^^^

I think what Wolf359 said is spot on.
_________________________
Nissan Altima 3.5 Coupe
Federated Auto Full Synthetic 5w30 Fram 7317
"Treat your family like your friends and treat your friends like your family."

Top
#4665443 - 02/14/18 05:24 AM Re: What are we paying for? [Re: Camprunner]
Iowegian Offline


Registered: 01/05/17
Posts: 236
Loc: Iowa
I would by the Supertech...if it wasn't for the $10 per jug rebate by pennzoil which makes it cheaper. shrug
_________________________
2011 Equinox, 2.4l
2009 Sienna, 3.5l

Top
#4665447 - 02/14/18 05:34 AM Re: What are we paying for? [Re: Camprunner]
Snagglefoot Online   content


Registered: 12/31/17
Posts: 536
Loc: Alberta
They need you to pick THEIR oil off the shelf for any reason other than price point. Whatever works.

Top
#4665458 - 02/14/18 06:02 AM Re: What are we paying for? [Re: Camprunner]
alarmguy Offline


Registered: 07/10/12
Posts: 1949
Loc: South Carolina
All you need is the specifications on the oil bottle that your engine calls for.

Everything else is marketing which includes pretty bottles, nice words, convincing claims. But never any proof that it is better then the specifications on the bottle.

Some very expensive oils may use a more expensive refined oil with many times more profit and markup added to the cost and again, only API specifications on the bottle matter.

Many decades ago, there was a large quality difference in some oils, many cases Castrol was king. These differences were even reported in Consumer Reports testing.

About a decade or more ago, Consumer reports has stated over and over again, today you might as well just pick by the API on the bottle, the oils protect just the same, oil has become a commodity, the additive packages are produced by a handful of companies and its a safe bet the bottle you buy meets the API rating. I am posting what I am just because of Consumer Reports, its just confirms what I already know.
Modern API standards are pretty much the deal now, pretty much an exact standard as most things in our world are.

I used to be a Castrol person because of testing, in the last decade and more so just the last couple years I now buy the lowest priced bottle that meets the API. Super Tech, Chevron, whatever.

I will admit, sometimes I am still "branded" to a brand name over Super Tech which is a FINE oil, for example, just ordered 3-5 quart jugs from Walmart on line, Chevron 5w30 @ $12.48 per container, free shipping too. I splurged and spent almost 50 cents more per 5 quart container over the Super Tech @ 11.98. :o)


Edited by alarmguy (02/14/18 06:18 AM)
_________________________
14 Road King (current)
08 VStar 1300 Tourer
07 Suzuki C50

Top
#4665462 - 02/14/18 06:12 AM Re: What are we paying for? [Re: Iowegian]
Kruse Offline


Registered: 10/05/05
Posts: 4236
Loc: Kansas
Originally Posted By: Iowegian
I would by the Supertech...if it wasn't for the $10 per jug rebate by pennzoil which makes it cheaper. shrug


You use your valuable time to fill out the form, buy a stamp (unless it's online), wait several weeks with a 50% chance you'll get a rebate. Once you get your check, you've got to take the effort to cash it....all for a few measly bucks. Of course, the rebate company sells your information to anybody who will buy it.
You really don't save as much money as you think you do.

Top
#4665484 - 02/14/18 07:09 AM Re: What are we paying for? [Re: Camprunner]
KevinP Offline


Registered: 05/27/13
Posts: 107
Loc: Monroe, WA
If you buy Castrol Magnatec you get "intelligent" oil molecules. That is worth the extra five bucks for me.

Top
#4665497 - 02/14/18 07:27 AM Re: What are we paying for? [Re: Kruse]
Iowegian Offline


Registered: 01/05/17
Posts: 236
Loc: Iowa
Originally Posted By: Kruse
Originally Posted By: Iowegian
I would by the Supertech...if it wasn't for the $10 per jug rebate by pennzoil which makes it cheaper. shrug


You use your valuable time to fill out the form, buy a stamp (unless it's online), wait several weeks with a 50% chance you'll get a rebate. Once you get your check, you've got to take the effort to cash it....all for a few measly bucks. Of course, the rebate company sells your information to anybody who will buy it.
You really don't save as much money as you think you do.


5 minutes to take picture, fill out form and upload picture.
Check comes... 5 minutes to sign check, take picture of check with my bank's app.

10 minutes for $10.
That's $60 an hour...

Time it took you to write your comment for no monetary return....priceless.
_________________________
2011 Equinox, 2.4l
2009 Sienna, 3.5l

Top
#4665514 - 02/14/18 07:48 AM Re: What are we paying for? [Re: Camprunner]
fenixguy Offline


Registered: 02/08/17
Posts: 304
Loc: NC
Oil is oil. I suppose there's no reason for this forum to exist anymore. grin
_________________________
'16 Frontier SV 4x4-PP/Nissan OEM
'08 CR-V EX AWD-Valvoline Syn MaxLife/Fram TG
'01 Civic EX-Valvoline Syn MaxLife/Fram UG
'00 Civic LX-PYB/Fram UG

Top
#4665525 - 02/14/18 08:01 AM Re: What are we paying for? [Re: Camprunner]
NGRhodes Offline


Registered: 01/06/13
Posts: 193
Loc: .
Better quality control ?
Some brands are know to have more frequent sub standard products - http://www.pqiamerica.com/

Top
#4665531 - 02/14/18 08:13 AM Re: What are we paying for? [Re: Camprunner]
BalticBob Offline


Registered: 11/27/16
Posts: 395
Loc: Texas
you are paying to sponsor a NASCAR team....

I choose oil by how the bottle color would look in my garage, or if it matches the color of my car. That criteria is more important than a brand name.
No difference in oils or cars.....it gets worn out, you dump it and buy another one.

Top
#4665535 - 02/14/18 08:18 AM Re: What are we paying for? [Re: Camprunner]
littleant Online   content


Registered: 10/10/17
Posts: 179
Loc: Vermont
Some oils say they meet the specification for your vehicle and some say meet or exceeded the spec and then some say just exceed the spec. I assume there is no max and oil can be?. Would not the oil that exceeded the spec be a better oil? fenixguy if we get rid of the oil forum what am I to do with my life duh
_________________________
I can't prevent getting old but I REFUSE to grow up.
2010 Mountaineer 4.0
2002 Jeep Wrangler TJ 4.0

Top
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >