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How are muffler shops still in business? #4662238
02/10/18 06:48 PM
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ZZman Offline OP
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With the long lasting stainless steel exhaust systems I haven't had to replace a muffler/exhaust system in probably 20 years. Have you guys had to replace a rotted out exhaust lately or just upgraded to something different?


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Re: How are muffler shops still in business? [Re: ZZman] #4662244
02/10/18 06:56 PM
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A kid turns 16 everyday.


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Re: How are muffler shops still in business? [Re: ZZman] #4662251
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Some people like to pimp their ride and put twice-pipes on their cars.


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Re: How are muffler shops still in business? [Re: ZZman] #4662254
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Up here there are plenty of clunkers with cheap Chinese exhausts. Combine that with emissions tests every 2 years and they are making plenty of coin up here.


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Re: How are muffler shops still in business? [Re: ZZman] #4662257
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Muffler places have to do regular stuff like brakes and repairs. If they are just doing mufflers they should be out of business.

In the old days a coffee can and wire was much cheaper than the muffler guy.


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Re: How are muffler shops still in business? [Re: motor_oil_madman] #4662259
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Easy question-

I used to own an exhaust shop.

1) Catalytic Converters.
2) The guys that want dual exhaust on their pickups.
3) The diesel truck guys that want the 5 inch exhaust.
4) Classic Cars.
5) Poor folk still driving 80s - 2000s cars.
6) Ricers

The pipe bender earned its keep, i burned up many sawzalls and miles of mig wire.


FYI my 2001 forester needs a muffler right now- its rusted thru. I am going to sell it as is though..so whomever buys it will need a muffler shop or fight the bolts with a heat wrench and have to bring out the sawzall.

Re: How are muffler shops still in business? [Re: ZZman] #4662261
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rust crzy

Re: How are muffler shops still in business? [Re: motor_oil_madman] #4662262
02/10/18 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
A kid turns 16 everyday.


For some it’s 16 or 26 or 36 and so forth around here … FlowMaster’s of the universe … and yes, half duals …
Our little shop would not have much overhead … one man show and pretty old building/equipment …
… had him move a pipe that was an inch from a PTU when there was plenty room to keep that heat further away …
He repaired a sway bar hanger for me too … pretty good at welding small stuff …


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Re: How are muffler shops still in business? [Re: ZZman] #4662275
02/10/18 07:37 PM
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The flex pipe will corrode through sooner or later and will need to be replaced.
Exhaust systems last a lot longer these days than was the case years ago, but they will still eventually require replacement.
A good shop with a skilled pipe bender and welder can fab up a new and quiet exhaust in no time at reasonable cost for those who have the wit to find these shops.
It's a smaller market these days, but it still exists as do the shops that have the know-how to do the work.


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Re: How are muffler shops still in business? [Re: ZZman] #4662276
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I saw this super clean Accord sedan the other day,and I kid you not,it had a fartcan protruding at least 15 feet out of the back!! God I wish I could've snapped a picture of that!! crackmeup


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Re: How are muffler shops still in business? [Re: ZZman] #4662286
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Just look at how Midas and Meineke rebranded themselves... they're now "undercar specialists" doing brakes, shocks, maintenance, and everything else.

Re: How are muffler shops still in business? [Re: ZZman] #4662295
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Literally everyone around here who buys a new pickup truck immediately hacks off the nice stainless steel system and has dual crush bent aluminized pipes installed with FLowmasters that will rust out within five years.


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Re: How are muffler shops still in business? [Re: aquariuscsm] #4662297
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Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
I saw this super clean Accord sedan the other day,and I kid you not,it had a fartcan protruding at least 15 feet out of the back!! God I wish I could've snapped a picture of that!! crackmeup


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Re: How are muffler shops still in business? [Re: ZZman] #4662302
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There are still plenty of rigs in this area that sorely need exhaust work... and one really lame exhaust shop in a town of 10,000 people to do it.


To quote a friend, "Synthetics, man."

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Re: How are muffler shops still in business? [Re: ZZman] #4662306
02/10/18 08:22 PM
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This is what a Exhaust shop looks like. They are still in buisness, but they are about as rare as Radiator shops.... but they do have mandrel bending machines.

Last edited by Vern_in_IL; 02/10/18 08:24 PM.
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