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Lionfish any good to eat? #4661438
02/09/18 10:59 PM
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Marshfield , MA
andyd Offline OP
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Nasty invasive species reputed to be tasty? Anybody eat it yet?


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Re: Lionfish any good to eat? [Re: andyd] #4661448
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I thought they were poisonous


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Re: Lionfish any good to eat? [Re: andyd] #4661453
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Don't think I would want to try them...How are are the larry's up there in Marshfield?


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Re: Lionfish any good to eat? [Re: andyd] #4661468
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The spines are venomous I believe. You cut them off, then prepare like a normal fish I believe.


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Re: Lionfish any good to eat? [Re: andyd] #4661472
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Spines are venomous. Near impossible to filet. Snap off venomous spines with wire cutters or equivalent, clean, and grill or put in foil with seasonings. Delicious!


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Re: Lionfish any good to eat? [Re: andyd] #4661473
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Evidently, lion fish are venomnous, not poisonous like fugu liver. If you can avoid their spines by wearing heavy gloves as you yank the spines off with pliers, you are safe.


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Re: Lionfish any good to eat? [Re: andyd] #4661480
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Nasty stingers, but so do Australian catfish have poisonous spines (the eel tailed cats).

Apparently delicious.

Eat them, it's good for the world.

Re: Lionfish any good to eat? [Re: andyd] #4661500
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Catfish have some nasty sharp fins here In Ma.
Nobody wants to eat them ( some people) but we like catching them...
lol...


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Re: Lionfish any good to eat? [Re: andyd] #4661508
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I've been eating fish recently , but not this kind.

Re: Lionfish any good to eat? [Re: andyd] #4661548
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Of course, I'm not anywhere near lionfish, but some of the documentaries I've seen on where they've been invasive have stated that there are campaigns to push the food value of them and encourage angling.


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Re: Lionfish any good to eat? [Re: andyd] #4661563
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Andrew Zimmern included Lion Fish in a Bizarre Foods America episode from the Florida keys. Slides 10 and 11. From what I remember from seeing that episode, the Lionfish were described as very tasty.

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Re: Lionfish any good to eat? [Re: andyd] #4661566
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Lionfish are invading the waters here on the northern Gulf of Mexico. The state of Florida has a campaign to encourage the spearfishing and trapping of lionfish from the Gulf. Underwater pictures of reefs infested with them are disturbing. They are swarming around the reefs like rats, eating everything in sight.

As part of the eradication effort the state is encouraging restaurants to offer lionfish on the menu, and many have begun to do so. One local restaurant has become famous for its lionfish dip.

From the FWC: "Lionfish are commonly used as a food fish in many parts of the world and are considered to be of excellent quality by most who have tried it. When cooked, lionfish fillets are firm, white and flaky with a very mild, non-fishy taste that is comparable to snapper, black sea bass or hogfish. Lionfish can be substituted in recipes for other nonoily fish and can be fried, broiled, baked, steamed or poached. While the spines of lionfish do contain venomous tissue, the flesh of a lionfish is not venomous or poisonous. Several Florida restaurants, seafood markets, and grocery stores are now serving limited amounts of commercially harvested lionfish."

Re: Lionfish any good to eat? [Re: andyd] #4661568
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The last three posts are encouraging to me.

Here. the European carp was introduced (by migrants), so that they could eat their beloved fish that were easy to catch (sweet corn on a hook) compared to trout (again, introduced, but class warfare has that as acceptable).

Carp, if you catch them must be humanely killed, and left at least (IIRC) 30 feet from the waterway.

Companies that tried to commercialise the carp into a garden fertiliser product were long rejected, as the logic went that to make a profit from a noxious pest would mean that you wouldn't eradicate that noxious pest...so just let them go berzerk.

Not sure what changed, as I've got some charlie carp to go on the garden.

But to encourage consumption is a great thing.

To semi paraphrase one of my favourite philosophers, where does one draw the line on what's a normal distribution of species ? The old world of Europe would look a lot different if they rejected all of the things that they picked up from South America (think Ireland without Potatoes, the Mediterranean without Tomatoes, bell peppers and Chillies)

Re: Lionfish any good to eat? [Re: andyd] #4661591
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I've heard good things.

Apparently they sell the stuff at seafood places down in Florida.

I love seafood and fish anyways, but I'd try it.


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Re: Lionfish any good to eat? [Re: Collingwood] #4661776
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Originally Posted By: Collingwood
I've been eating fish recently , but not this kind.

What kind of fish do you get there in New Jersey? Large ones?


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