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#4660892 - 02/09/18 11:36 AM 2010 Pilot M1 5W-20 6600 miles High Fe & Al
dwgwater Offline


Registered: 07/10/09
Posts: 24
Loc: IL
2010 Pilot with about 95,000 miles, I've never done a UOA before, but decided to follow (test) the MM on this OCI, so I changed it when the MM was at 20%, which was about 6600 miles. Blackstone thinks I should go back to my former practice of changing at 4K to 5K miles. I certainly should change it before the weather in Chicago gets cold. Lots of short trips in cold weather recently. Otherwise, typical suburban driving with a 200 mile round trip once in a while. The oil was in there from July to January, so it took about 7 months to accumulate 6600 miles. The oil itself seems to be in reasonable condition, just unusual wear numbers.
Dave



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#4660901 - 02/09/18 11:43 AM Re: 2010 Pilot M1 5W-20 6600 miles High Fe & Al [Re: dwgwater]
mbacfp Offline


Registered: 09/02/15
Posts: 837
Loc: California
Wouldn't worry at this point. Need to see more data points IMHO. Might consider a magnetic drain plug next OCI. If metals are high again at next OCI, then I might consider switching oil brands then go from there.


Edited by mbacfp (02/09/18 11:44 AM)
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#4661051 - 02/09/18 02:23 PM Re: 2010 Pilot M1 5W-20 6600 miles High Fe & Al [Re: dwgwater]
czbrian Offline


Registered: 04/10/15
Posts: 154
Loc: Houston, TX
I would switch to a 5w30/0w30 since it seems to be at the low end of the viscosity range from fuel dilution and perhaps some other factor. I've ran 5w30 in my wife's 2006 Pilot for the last 6 years.

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#4661054 - 02/09/18 02:26 PM Re: 2010 Pilot M1 5W-20 6600 miles High Fe & Al [Re: dwgwater]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
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I'd run AFE 0W30 in it and recheck with another UOA.
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#4661080 - 02/09/18 02:58 PM Re: 2010 Pilot M1 5W-20 6600 miles High Fe & Al [Re: dwgwater]
zfasts03 Offline


Registered: 07/21/08
Posts: 253
Loc: Bucks, PA
Does this engine have cylinder deactivation?

I run 5w-30 in my `06 Odyssey and all is well. I have cylinder deactivation. 137,000 miles.
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#4661126 - 02/09/18 03:48 PM Re: 2010 Pilot M1 5W-20 6600 miles High Fe & Al [Re: dwgwater]
CT8 Offline


Registered: 10/09/14
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Loc: Idaho
The cold operation maybe the cause of the high iron numbers.
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#4661133 - 02/09/18 03:52 PM Re: 2010 Pilot M1 5W-20 6600 miles High Fe & Al [Re: dwgwater]
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Registered: 04/28/08
Posts: 36464
Loc: Ontario, Canada
How long have you been running this oil for? How many OCI's?
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#4661155 - 02/09/18 04:11 PM Re: 2010 Pilot M1 5W-20 6600 miles High Fe & Al [Re: dwgwater]
Old Mustang Guy Offline


Registered: 11/16/05
Posts: 967
Loc: Rockwall, Texas
Fuel high, flashpoint low, especially for no D.I. Yet viscosity is within range. ?

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#4661262 - 02/09/18 06:33 PM Re: 2010 Pilot M1 5W-20 6600 miles High Fe & Al [Re: CT8]
zeng Offline


Registered: 09/01/15
Posts: 2188
Loc: Malaysia
Originally Posted By: CT8
The cold operation maybe the cause of the high iron numbers.

That's my thought as well.
6600 miles in coming warmer season might see marginal lesser metal wear I guess.

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#4661273 - 02/09/18 07:01 PM Re: 2010 Pilot M1 5W-20 6600 miles High Fe & Al [Re: czbrian]
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Registered: 12/31/17
Posts: 1739
Loc: Alberta
Originally Posted By: czbrian
I would switch to a 5w30/0w30 since it seems to be at the low end of the viscosity range from fuel dilution and perhaps some other factor. I've ran 5w30 in my wife's 2006 Pilot for the last 6 years.


+1

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#4661455 - 02/09/18 10:24 PM Re: 2010 Pilot M1 5W-20 6600 miles High Fe & Al [Re: dwgwater]
dwgwater Offline


Registered: 07/10/09
Posts: 24
Loc: IL
Thanks for the comments and suggestion. Agree that XW-30 is the way to go. Dino with 3k changes or synthetic and go 4 or 5K? It has the VCM. Previous OCI was the same M1 5W-20

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#4662194 - 02/10/18 05:38 PM Re: 2010 Pilot M1 5W-20 6600 miles High Fe & Al [Re: dwgwater]
iunderpressure Offline


Registered: 10/21/08
Posts: 412
Loc: Corydon, Indiana
What oil filter was used?
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#4662585 - 02/11/18 08:16 AM Re: 2010 Pilot M1 5W-20 6600 miles High Fe & Al [Re: dwgwater]
Matagonka Offline


Registered: 02/03/15
Posts: 469
Loc: NC
Doesn't the M1 produce a higher Fe amount when compared to others?

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#4662604 - 02/11/18 08:31 AM Re: 2010 Pilot M1 5W-20 6600 miles High Fe & Al [Re: czbrian]
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Registered: 09/21/10
Posts: 6390
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: czbrian
I would switch to a 5w30/0w30 since it seems to be at the low end of the viscosity range from fuel dilution and perhaps some other factor. I've ran 5w30 in my wife's 2006 Pilot for the last 6 years.


Wondered about that too barely in grade 20 ~ and fuel dilution called harmless

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#4662613 - 02/11/18 08:35 AM Re: 2010 Pilot M1 5W-20 6600 miles High Fe & Al [Re: dwgwater]
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Registered: 09/21/10
Posts: 6390
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: dwgwater
Thanks for the comments and suggestion. Agree that XW-30 is the way to go. Dino with 3k changes or synthetic and go 4 or 5K? It has the VCM. Previous OCI was the same M1 5W-20


If you still want a 20 M1 EP 0w20 has more PAO and might stay in grade better
My new 5.3L is whisper quiet on that stuff

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