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2017 VW Tiguan 2.0T/14,500 miles/PZ Euro 0w40/4k O #4660805
02/09/18 10:23 AM
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motech Offline OP
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A relatively short OCI: I run almost exclusively short trips and stick to 5k changes. Shorter this time so I could test the oil. Previously M1 0w40 FS has sheared pretty quickly. New engine, so I'll just post the oil numbers and leave out the wear metals (which were fine).

SUS visc. 66.9. (65-75 range)
CSt visc. 12.12. (11.6-14.5)
Flash 395 (>385)
Fuel <0.5. <2.0
TBN. 6.0

Re: 2017 VW Tiguan 2.0T/14,500 miles/PZ Euro 0w40/4k O [Re: motech] #4660815
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So the car has 14,500 miles on it?


2014 Mazda 3 Hatch 2.0L & 6spd - Idemitsu 0w20 Synthetic @ $0.75 a quart. (thanks Advance Auto Parts for the awesome deal)
Re: 2017 VW Tiguan 2.0T/14,500 miles/PZ Euro 0w40/4k O [Re: Artem] #4660825
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motech Offline OP
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Yes. I got it with 9k miles, and have cycled through two short OCI's to be comfortable with what's in there. UOA strictly to see if the oil was starting to shear. 5k OCI's from here out.


2017 VW Tiguan Sport 2.0T Mobil 1 0w-40
2015 Audi Q5 2.0T Castrol 0w-40
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Re: 2017 VW Tiguan/14,500 miles/PZ Euro 0w40/4k OC [Re: motech] #4661039
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Yeesh- my original post stunk. To be clear, this was a 4k OCI with the Pennzoil. I normally run Castrol 0w40 due to previous poor performance with M1 0w40 FS, but knowing I'd pull this at 4k wanted to test the PZ Euro 0w40.


2017 VW Tiguan Sport 2.0T Mobil 1 0w-40
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Re: 2017 VW Tiguan/14,500 miles/PZ Euro 0w40/4k OC [Re: motech] #4661175
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Originally Posted By: motech
Yeesh- my original post stunk. To be clear, this was a 4k OCI with the Pennzoil. I normally run Castrol 0w40 due to previous poor performance with M1 0w40 FS, but knowing I'd pull this at 4k wanted to test the PZ Euro 0w40.

Can you provide some additional details of the "poor performance" with M1 0W-40?


2011 Toyota Prius - 178k - Various 0W-20 (Brew)
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Re: 2017 VW Tiguan/14,500 miles/PZ Euro 0w40/4k OC [Re: motech] #4661259
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motech Offline OP
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62.09 and 11.04 were the two viscosity readings for the M1 0w40 FS.


2017 VW Tiguan Sport 2.0T Mobil 1 0w-40
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Re: 2017 VW Tiguan 2.0T/14,500 miles/PZ Euro 0w40/4k O [Re: motech] #4675011
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Originally Posted By: motech
TBN. 6.0

immpossible
ASTM 2896 or 4739 ?

Re: 2017 VW Tiguan 2.0T/14,500 miles/PZ Euro 0w40/4k O [Re: motech] #4676772
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motech Offline OP
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Whichever Blackstone does- that's who I did the test with.


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Re: 2017 VW Tiguan 2.0T/14,500 miles/PZ Euro 0w40/4k O [Re: motech] #4678476
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Mahzurrah!
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At only 4k miles with a long drain "Euro" type oil a TBN of 6.0 is not unlikely at all.


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Re: 2017 VW Tiguan 2.0T/14,500 miles/PZ Euro 0w40/4k O [Re: Gubkin] #4678527
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Originally Posted By: Gubkin
Originally Posted By: motech
TBN. 6.0

immpossible
ASTM 2896 or 4739 ?


How is it impossible?

Especially, when the starting TBN as specified by VW for 502.00 is higher, iirc, the min is around 8.


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