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How is the Fiat 500L 1.4T DCT in reliability? #4660202
02/08/18 05:28 PM
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They seem to be available at good prices with low miles and a panoramic sunroof, but Fiat does have a bad reputation. It uses the same 1.4T and DCT from the Dart, 500 Abarth, Renegade, and some others. Is the 500L any good in terms of reliability?

Amalie makes a good DCT at a low price when purchased by the case, so a fluid change every year wouldn't be too bad, as long as it has a drain plug.

Re: How is the Fiat 500L 1.4T DCT in reliability? [Re: slacktide_bitog] #4660212
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Re: How is the Fiat 500L 1.4T DCT in reliability? [Re: slacktide_bitog] #4660213
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Re: How is the Fiat 500L 1.4T DCT in reliability? [Re: slacktide_bitog] #4660218
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Dual Clutch Transmission, not for me. There are all kind of horror stories about DCTs. Ford, Hyundai, Fiat/Chrysler, Alfa Romeo and so forth. My dad had a 2012 Focus, that tranny was awful. If it had been equipped with a conventional fluid drive automatic, it would have been perfect. He kept it a year and traded for a 2014 KIA Forte.

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Re: How is the Fiat 500L 1.4T DCT in reliability? [Re: slacktide_bitog] #4660222
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I'm unsure when they made the change, but I know the 2017's didn't come with the 9-speed ZF transmission that people complain about. The 2017, I believe, came with an 6-speed made by Asin which must be OK, because nobody talks about it. The 1.4 turbo engine has a reputation for being pretty reliable. When you hear about problems with Fiats it's usually the Chrysler built stuff (like the 2.4 liter normally aspirated engine).

Re: How is the Fiat 500L 1.4T DCT in reliability? [Re: slacktide_bitog] #4660223
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Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
They seem to be available at good prices with low miles and a panoramic sunroof, but Fiat does have a bad reputation. It uses the same 1.4T and DCT from the Dart, 500 Abarth, Renegade, and some others. Is the 500L any good in terms of reliability?

Amalie makes a good DCT at a low price when purchased by the case, so a fluid change every year wouldn't be too bad, as long as it has a drain plug.


Not very good. We had few at work and nothing but problems. Just my two cents


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Re: How is the Fiat 500L 1.4T DCT in reliability? [Re: slacktide_bitog] #4660241
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FIAT fix it all the time.


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Re: How is the Fiat 500L 1.4T DCT in reliability? [Re: slacktide_bitog] #4660243
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No


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Re: How is the Fiat 500L 1.4T DCT in reliability? [Re: slacktide_bitog] #4660256
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Re: How is the Fiat 500L 1.4T DCT in reliability? [Re: slacktide_bitog] #4660257
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The DCT, DSG, and PDK transmissions work pretty well, although with respect to the DCT I still prefer either the 8HP or six speed manual. I have several friends with 500 Abarths and they really haven't had any issues with them. If I wanted a small FWD buzz bomb I'd seriously consider one.


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Re: How is the Fiat 500L 1.4T DCT in reliability? [Re: macarose] #4660261
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Re: How is the Fiat 500L 1.4T DCT in reliability? [Re: CT8] #4660283
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Originally Posted By: CT8
FIAT fix it all the time.


Fix it again, Tony!

Re: How is the Fiat 500L 1.4T DCT in reliability? [Re: macarose] #4660287
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Originally Posted By: macarose


What year is that from? It has Hummer listed in the brands, and Hummer (not to be convinced with the military HUMVEE) hasn't made a vehicle since 2010.


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Re: How is the Fiat 500L 1.4T DCT in reliability? [Re: slacktide_bitog] #4660394
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I have a 2017 Fiat Spider 124 with 1.4 L turbo. Great car and no problems at all.


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Re: How is the Fiat 500L 1.4T DCT in reliability? [Re: slacktide_bitog] #4660507
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Assuming FIAT has experienced a renaissance in product reliability in the last few years, it's probably average.

If they haven't, it's the European equivalent of Chrysler (North America) or Nissan (Japanese). In other words, not so good.

Like those other brands, it's not so much that the cars are unreliable, it's the fact that there is no consistency. You can buy a perfectly good FIAT and you can buy one that just refuses to remain out of the shop, and the latter is more common than other brands, which are not immune to the situation, but have more examples in the good side and fewer in the bad.


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