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S&W M&P Shield .380 EZ #4658304
02/06/18 07:14 PM
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Re: S&W M&P Shield .380 EZ [Re: bigj_16] #4658322
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to o.p.: thanks for this link! it is past time for gun makers and ammo makers to address the unmet needs of seniors, ladies and anyone else needing easier handling/shooting handguns. 380acp, as well as 32acp (and even 32s&w long), deserve more mainstream platforms. a ruger lcp or s&w bodyguard in 32acp would be a softer, still credible ccw for recoil averse persons.


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Re: S&W M&P Shield .380 EZ [Re: bigj_16] #4658337
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The macho shooter crowd will laugh at this but it looks to be thoughtfully designed. It makes sense that they were able to reuse the M&P22 frame and slide since a blowback 380 is a simple mechanism.

Re: S&W M&P Shield .380 EZ [Re: bigj_16] #4658342
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This is the kind of pistol that will make the difference between some people being armed or not. No reason to laugh.

Re: S&W M&P Shield .380 EZ [Re: bigj_16] #4658372
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IMO, people not very familiar with guns should go for a revolver (especially if it's just used at home) because they are a no-brainier to operate.

Re: S&W M&P Shield .380 EZ [Re: bigj_16] #4658419
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Originally Posted By: bigj_16


First looks at it reminded me of the Glock 42.
But there's no specs inside this article.


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Re: S&W M&P Shield .380 EZ [Re: bigj_16] #4658424
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Re: S&W M&P Shield .380 EZ [Re: ZeeOSix] #4658454
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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
IMO, people not very familiar with guns should go for a revolver (especially if it's just used at home) because they are a no-brainier to operate.

That's not necessarily bad advice.
However, the issue here is not unfamiliarity with firearms,but physical issues. One big problem with a DA revolver is the trigger pull in DA for someone with limited grip strength.

Re: S&W M&P Shield .380 EZ [Re: bigj_16] #4658568
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Originally Posted By: bigj_16
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
IMO, people not very familiar with guns should go for a revolver (especially if it's just used at home) because they are a no-brainier to operate.

That's not necessarily bad advice.
However, the issue here is not unfamiliarity with firearms,but physical issues. One big problem with a DA revolver is the trigger pull in DA for someone with limited grip strength.


This. Although some revolvers like the Ruger LCR and Colt Cobra have exceptionally light DA pulls for a wheelgun. Around 7lbs which is not much more than the usual 5 to 6 lb triggers on many semi autos.


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Re: S&W M&P Shield .380 EZ [Re: jstert] #4658651
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Originally Posted By: jstert
to o.p.: thanks for this link! it is past time for gun makers and ammo makers to address the unmet needs of seniors, ladies and anyone else needing easier handling/shooting handguns. 380acp, as well as 32acp (and even 32s&w long), deserve more mainstream platforms. a ruger lcp or s&w bodyguard in 32acp would be a softer, still credible ccw for recoil averse persons.


Oh believe me there’s nothing soft or nice about shooting 380 out of a tiny gun like a LCP. I liken it to a 1911 and I would expect this little guy to bite just as hard. A box or less is plenty for the day. My only gripe is the bullet price :e sheer beauty of these little guys is that they fit right in your pocket in a flimsy pocket holster so well. Mine is the exact same weight and size as a smart phone.

Re: S&W M&P Shield .380 EZ [Re: bigj_16] #4658694
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Why the need for a grip safety? That is a departure from the "typical" M&P design and the other 2.0 pistols do not need it in order to be "safe". I sold an XD Mod 2 because it did not fit my hand so the engagement of the grip safety was sporadic and therefore not reliable. I like the MP 2.0 pistols and will probably grab a compact and full size at some point, but this one not so much.


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Re: S&W M&P Shield .380 EZ [Re: jstert] #4658699
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Originally Posted By: jstert
to o.p.: thanks for this link! it is past time for gun makers and ammo makers to address the unmet needs of seniors, ladies and anyone else needing easier handling/shooting handguns. 380acp, as well as 32acp (and even 32s&w long), deserve more mainstream platforms. a ruger lcp or s&w bodyguard in 32acp would be a softer, still credible ccw for recoil averse persons.


It looks huge though. Who needs a huge 380 when you can get this Buffalo Bore Barnes (middle) from a simple to use 2 inch 38 with 15 inches of penetration expanding to about .70 Cal. 110G light recoil. Two 380's below. The sig @ 15 and the Winchester defend at .63 (but only 8 inches penetration. 2 layers denim.

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Re: S&W M&P Shield .380 EZ [Re: Robenstein] #4658705
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Originally Posted By: Robenstein
Originally Posted By: bigj_16
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
IMO, people not very familiar with guns should go for a revolver (especially if it's just used at home) because they are a no-brainier to operate.

That's not necessarily bad advice.
However, the issue here is not unfamiliarity with firearms,but physical issues. One big problem with a DA revolver is the trigger pull in DA for someone with limited grip strength.


This. Although some revolvers like the Ruger LCR and Colt Cobra have exceptionally light DA pulls for a wheelgun. Around 7lbs which is not much more than the usual 5 to 6 lb triggers on many semi autos.

The draw of the LCR is that the pull is smooth, not light. LCR's are usually coming in at 10-12. The one we have (LCRX 3")is probably 11-12.
That trigger is what led me to look at other handguns for my wife. I like the LCRX a lot, and shoot it well. It is somewhat of a struggle for my wife.

Re: S&W M&P Shield .380 EZ [Re: 2015_PSD] #4658706
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Originally Posted By: 2015_PSD
Why the need for a grip safety? That is a departure from the "typical" M&P design and the other 2.0 pistols do not need it in order to be "safe". I sold an XD Mod 2 because it did not fit my hand so the engagement of the grip safety was sporadic and therefore not reliable. I like the MP 2.0 pistols and will probably grab a compact and full size at some point, but this one not so much.


This ^^^^^^^^^^

I think today grip safeties are mostly the result of boardroom decision making and "lawyer proofing". Than they are of any practical use. Just something else that can go wrong, and or effect reliability. Legality aside, I put this into much the same type of decision making as adding a hammer to the Springfield XD. Simply a way to generate more sales to people who feel they can't live without a pistol that has either.

Re: S&W M&P Shield .380 EZ [Re: bigj_16] #4658708
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Originally Posted By: bigj_16
Originally Posted By: Robenstein
Originally Posted By: bigj_16
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
IMO, people not very familiar with guns should go for a revolver (especially if it's just used at home) because they are a no-brainier to operate.

That's not necessarily bad advice.
However, the issue here is not unfamiliarity with firearms,but physical issues. One big problem with a DA revolver is the trigger pull in DA for someone with limited grip strength.


This. Although some revolvers like the Ruger LCR and Colt Cobra have exceptionally light DA pulls for a wheelgun. Around 7lbs which is not much more than the usual 5 to 6 lb triggers on many semi autos.

The draw of the LCR is that the pull is smooth, not light. LCR's are usually coming in at 10-12. The one we have (LCRX 3")is probably 11-12.
That trigger is what led me to look at other handguns for my wife. I like the LCRX a lot, and shoot it well. It is somewhat of a struggle for my wife.


You can cock the 38 revolver and turn it into a single action. The one time I really though someone was in my home I did before leaving my bedroom. My son did the same on a later date.

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