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#4657760 - 02/06/18 09:24 AM New Subaru OCI Manual vs. Dealer
redwolf4k Offline


Registered: 10/06/08
Posts: 68
Loc: NY
I just purchased a new 2018 Subaru Impreza, my first new car in a long time. I see that the OCI for the 2.0 Boxer engine is 6,000 miles or 6 months on their synthetic oil (as per service schedule). My dealer informed me that I needed to change the oil at 3,000 miles for the first time, and gave me the whole break-in explanation. Speaking to friends and family who have recently purchased a Subaru I was told that isn't true...and they changed their oil at 6,000 miles on the factory fill.

I get my first year of service free...which is two oil changes (and a few rotations)...is this the dealer trying to hurry me up and make money on me?

Anyone been down this road with a new Subaru and can offer advice? In no way am I trying to be cheap, I want what is best for the car as I keep my cars a long long time (I just retired a 29 year old Toyota pickup).

It is nice to have a year covered in oil changes, so I don't want to be rushed if running the factory fill to 6,000 miles is better for break in than 3,000.

Thank you.


Edited by redwolf4k (02/06/18 09:31 AM)

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#4657770 - 02/06/18 09:32 AM Re: New Subaru OCI Manual vs. Dealer [Re: redwolf4k]
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#4657784 - 02/06/18 09:44 AM Re: New Subaru OCI Manual vs. Dealer [Re: redwolf4k]
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Registered: 04/04/12
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Our Santa Fe Sport 2.0T required the first oil change at 3K and the subsequent ones at 5K/6 month intervals. But that's also in the manual. I would go by the manual.
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#4657791 - 02/06/18 09:56 AM Re: New Subaru OCI Manual vs. Dealer [Re: redwolf4k]
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Registered: 03/02/13
Posts: 4390
Loc: The Midwest
I just wanna say you have an awesome car with the best feeling unibody of a small car I've ever driven. The 2017+ Impreza is outstanding.
My sister owns a 2017 Impreza and I test drove one with a stick. The only thing that kept me from buying it is that I'm spoiled by having owned fast cars.

I once owned a WRX.
Subaru use to require the first oil change early on the 6 cylinder engines only as they had a timing chain and the four cylinder engines did not.
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#4657797 - 02/06/18 10:04 AM Re: New Subaru OCI Manual vs. Dealer [Re: redwolf4k]
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Registered: 06/05/02
Posts: 19042
Loc: Iowegia - USA
Originally Posted By: redwolf4k
I just purchased a new 2018 Subaru Impreza, my first new car in a long time. I see that the OCI for the 2.0 Boxer engine is 6,000 miles or 6 months on their synthetic oil (as per service schedule). My dealer informed me that I needed to change the oil at 3,000 miles for the first time, and gave me the whole break-in explanation. Speaking to friends and family who have recently purchased a Subaru I was told that isn't true...and they changed their oil at 6,000 miles on the factory fill.

I get my first year of service free...which is two oil changes (and a few rotations)...is this the dealer trying to hurry me up and make money on me?

Anyone been down this road with a new Subaru and can offer advice? In no way am I trying to be cheap, I want what is best for the car as I keep my cars a long long time (I just retired a 29 year old Toyota pickup).

It is nice to have a year covered in oil changes, so I don't want to be rushed if running the factory fill to 6,000 miles is better for break in than 3,000.

Thank you.


A Severe Service Interval oil change at 3,500 miles is an excellent idea.

Newer engines tend to shear oil more than older ones AND, you want to get rid of any 'new engine' wear particles and machining abrasives from the factory.

I change the Factory Fill (FF) on any new cars at 500 miles.


Edited by MolaKule (02/06/18 10:06 AM)

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#4657802 - 02/06/18 10:11 AM Re: New Subaru OCI Manual vs. Dealer [Re: redwolf4k]
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Registered: 03/21/05
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For what its worth, on brand new engines from Subaru i've always subscribed to the 1k oil change. Then run it to 5k (So 4k later) and change again.

From the 5k point, go with a 6-7.k oil change on full synthetic and never look back.
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#4657805 - 02/06/18 10:13 AM Re: New Subaru OCI Manual vs. Dealer [Re: redwolf4k]
redwolf4k Offline


Registered: 10/06/08
Posts: 68
Loc: NY
Sounds like 3,000 mile OCI cannot hurt. I will stick to it. Then I am going to the 6k interval. Thank you.

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#4657809 - 02/06/18 10:16 AM Re: New Subaru OCI Manual vs. Dealer [Re: skyactiv]
redwolf4k Offline


Registered: 10/06/08
Posts: 68
Loc: NY
Thank you! I am very satisfied thus far. It is a hard car to beat in the under 20k new car segment. It is my first Subaru, as I have always owned Toyotas. It is quite quiet, handles nice and tight, I am pleased with the build quality. No buyers remorse with this one!

Originally Posted By: skyactiv
I just wanna say you have an awesome car with the best feeling unibody of a small car I've ever driven. The 2017+ Impreza is outstanding.
My sister owns a 2017 Impreza and I test drove one with a stick. The only thing that kept me from buying it is that I'm spoiled by having owned fast cars.

I once owned a WRX.
Subaru use to require the first oil change early on the 6 cylinder engines only as they had a timing chain and the four cylinder engines did not.

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#4657850 - 02/06/18 10:45 AM Re: New Subaru OCI Manual vs. Dealer [Re: redwolf4k]
pbm Offline


Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 7591
Loc: New York
Did Subaru fix the oil consumption issues? I like the Impreza and the Forester but I'm not crazy about using a quart of oil every 1K.
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#4657861 - 02/06/18 10:54 AM Re: New Subaru OCI Manual vs. Dealer [Re: pbm]
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Registered: 03/04/17
Posts: 4213
Loc: Soviet State of Washington
Originally Posted By: pbm
Did Subaru fix the oil consumption issues? I like the Impreza and the Forester but I'm not crazy about using a quart of oil every 1K.



My understanding is that those were fixed a few years ago.
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#4657945 - 02/06/18 12:03 PM Re: New Subaru OCI Manual vs. Dealer [Re: redwolf4k]
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Registered: 05/14/12
Posts: 1125
Loc: Winchester, Indiana
My mom bought an 18 Forester, and the dealer gave her a free synthetic oil change at 3k, and also a complimentary inspection just to make sure everything else looked OK. I'd suggest pushing your dealer to offer the same- $15 in materials and an hour of the dealer's time is a minimal investment to make sure they have a happy customer that is more likely to be a repeat purchaser. It's just good business, and I won't deal with a dealer that doesn't.

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#4657951 - 02/06/18 12:17 PM Re: New Subaru OCI Manual vs. Dealer [Re: redwolf4k]
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Registered: 05/05/12
Posts: 837
Loc: Rio Rancho, NM
Congrads redwolf4k on your new Subaru! Named after a Star System. I would listen to Molekule! But, it's your choice. I changed my Montero oil @ 1000 miles and she is in mint condition at 23 years old. However; that was a long time ago. Engines today have tighter clearances and the motor oil is superior......





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#4657970 - 02/06/18 12:36 PM Re: New Subaru OCI Manual vs. Dealer [Re: redwolf4k]
bigjl Offline


Registered: 09/06/12
Posts: 2220
Loc: London, England
Been a while since I had a beand new Subaru

But back in 2004 it bought a brand new WRX then traded into in for a Legacy.

Both had a oil change at 1000miles
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#4657977 - 02/06/18 12:39 PM Re: New Subaru OCI Manual vs. Dealer [Re: SubieRubyRoo]
nthach Offline


Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 3884
Loc: California
Originally Posted By: SubieRubyRoo
I'd suggest pushing your dealer to offer the same- $15 in materials and an hour of the dealer's time is a minimal investment to make sure they have a happy customer that is more likely to be a repeat purchaser. It's just good business, and I won't deal with a dealer that doesn't.

The "mainstream" brands haven't really gotten the grasp at this quite yet - Toyota offers 2 years of scheduled maintenance(per the "normal" schedule) and Lexus really started the complimentary first one or two scheduled maintenance visits for new owners in the 1990s.

Even though I think it's a ploy to make the dealer your one-stop shop for service(and salesmen circling the service drive like hawks), it's also a goodwill gesture for the dealer to show that they care and you're not just another prospect in their DMS.

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#4658011 - 02/06/18 01:18 PM Re: New Subaru OCI Manual vs. Dealer [Re: MolaKule]
gathermewool Offline


Registered: 01/09/09
Posts: 5986
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
Originally Posted By: redwolf4k
I just purchased a new 2018 Subaru Impreza, my first new car in a long time. I see that the OCI for the 2.0 Boxer engine is 6,000 miles or 6 months on their synthetic oil (as per service schedule). My dealer informed me that I needed to change the oil at 3,000 miles for the first time, and gave me the whole break-in explanation. Speaking to friends and family who have recently purchased a Subaru I was told that isn't true...and they changed their oil at 6,000 miles on the factory fill.

I get my first year of service free...which is two oil changes (and a few rotations)...is this the dealer trying to hurry me up and make money on me?

Anyone been down this road with a new Subaru and can offer advice? In no way am I trying to be cheap, I want what is best for the car as I keep my cars a long long time (I just retired a 29 year old Toyota pickup).

It is nice to have a year covered in oil changes, so I don't want to be rushed if running the factory fill to 6,000 miles is better for break in than 3,000.

Thank you.


A Severe Service Interval oil change at 3,500 miles is an excellent idea.

Newer engines tend to shear oil more than older ones AND, you want to get rid of any 'new engine' wear particles and machining abrasives from the factory.

I change the Factory Fill (FF) on any new cars at 500 miles.


One of the only times I'll disagree with you, sir. For aggressively-tuned, high-strung engines or performance applications, I 100% agree with you. The motor in the Impreza is pretty tame. The only reason Subaru has such a short interval (lowered from 7,500 miles to 6k in most applications) is likely because they've had some issues with oil consumption.

IMO, 6k miles on synthetic (including the factory-fill) is pretty conservative, and makes a lot of Subarus very good candidates for OCI extension after after the warranty period is up, or sooner, based on UOA results.

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