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Red Line 15w40 HDEO 2014 F250 6.7 PSD 9400 miles #4657424
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Left: Red Line 15w40
Right two: RT6 5w40 CJ4
Not sure what TR means . . . .


2014 F250 6.7L PSD
2006 Sequoia 4.7L
2005 E500 5.0L
2018 Jeep Rubicon, Pentastar 3.6L
Re: Red Line 15w40 HDEO 2014 F250 6.7 PSD 9400 miles [Re: claluja] #4657440
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Wow, vanilla. Whatever happened to 6,000,000 ppm of moly...though Fe looks to be better, all else seems equal.
TR is trace.


95 Cherokee 190K DELO 10W30, XG8
07 IS250 106K STP syn HM 10w30, FULL
04 YZF-R1 19K DELO 15w40, XG7317
99 HD XL1200S 21K VR1 20w50, NG1515
14 RX450h 40k Idemitsu 0w20, 57047
Re: Red Line 15w40 HDEO 2014 F250 6.7 PSD 9400 miles [Re: Dyusik] #4657485
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Originally Posted By: Dyusik
Wow, vanilla. Whatever happened to 6,000,000 ppm of moly...


because it only shows *some* (not all) additive packs... and only at the molecular level.

A UOA also doesn't show anything about base oils used.


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Red Line 15w40 HDEO 2014 F250 6.7 PSD 9400 miles [Re: Linctex] #4657562
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Well aware,just thinking back to some old uoas of rl.


95 Cherokee 190K DELO 10W30, XG8
07 IS250 106K STP syn HM 10w30, FULL
04 YZF-R1 19K DELO 15w40, XG7317
99 HD XL1200S 21K VR1 20w50, NG1515
14 RX450h 40k Idemitsu 0w20, 57047
Re: Red Line 15w40 HDEO 2014 F250 6.7 PSD 9400 miles [Re: claluja] #4657568
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Just wondering, how high does the iron ppm have to get before these guys would be concerned?


If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: Red Line 15w40 HDEO 2014 F250 6.7 PSD 9400 miles [Re: claluja] #4657571
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VOA for this oil:

://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4521580/VOA_Red_Line_15w40_HDEO#Post4521580


2014 F250 6.7L PSD
2006 Sequoia 4.7L
2005 E500 5.0L
2018 Jeep Rubicon, Pentastar 3.6L
Re: Red Line 15w40 HDEO 2014 F250 6.7 PSD 9400 miles [Re: Snagglefoot] #4658030
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Originally Posted By: Snagglefoot
Just wondering, how high does the iron ppm have to get before these guys would be concerned?


over 100ppm might raise a flag all depends on how many hrs on the oil

Re: Red Line 15w40 HDEO 2014 F250 6.7 PSD 9400 miles [Re: claluja] #4658073
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Redline sure knocked down your iron on this longer OCI. Whether it's moly or gerbil urine that's in the oil, its clearly working for you. I wouldn't change a thing.


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68 Charger R/T / Supercharged 440 VR1/DBL7349
07 Ram 3500 4x4 / Cummins 6.7 /DBL7349
17 Maserati GranTurismo Cabrio
Re: Red Line 15w40 HDEO 2014 F250 6.7 PSD 9400 miles [Re: DoubleWasp] #4658667
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Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
Redline sure knocked down your iron on this longer OCI. Whether it's moly or gerbil urine that's in the oil, its clearly working for you. I wouldn't change a thing.


Agreed.

Has anyone ever seen this "TR" comment from Blackstone before on fuel dilution? That could be interpreted as 0.01%, 1% or 4% fuel dilution?? I'm guessing a decent amount of fuel dilution here given the big flashpoint drop from 475 to 415, the viscosity drops, and a lot of subfreezing idling with the 15w. Is Blackstone finally admitting they can't accurately measure fuel dilutuon, by just saying TR with no number?

Note: fuel dilution is a big deal to me, because of other engines where I have fuel dilution problems.

Last edited by claluja; 02/07/18 06:02 AM.

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2006 Sequoia 4.7L
2005 E500 5.0L
2018 Jeep Rubicon, Pentastar 3.6L
Re: Red Line 15w40 HDEO 2014 F250 6.7 PSD 9400 miles [Re: claluja] #4662457
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Both of the right two are RT6 CJ4? What's with the nosedive in Potassium and Boron between the two fills of the same exact oil?


07 Lincoln Navigator M1 0w-40/FU
68 Charger R/T / Supercharged 440 VR1/DBL7349
07 Ram 3500 4x4 / Cummins 6.7 /DBL7349
17 Maserati GranTurismo Cabrio
Re: Red Line 15w40 HDEO 2014 F250 6.7 PSD 9400 miles [Re: DoubleWasp] #4662493
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Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
Both of the right two are RT6 CJ4? What's with the nosedive in Potassium and Boron between the two fills of the same exact oil?


Archoil in the first RT6 fill. Archoil pollution carryover in the second RT6.

Last edited by claluja; 02/11/18 06:28 AM.

2014 F250 6.7L PSD
2006 Sequoia 4.7L
2005 E500 5.0L
2018 Jeep Rubicon, Pentastar 3.6L
Re: Red Line 15w40 HDEO 2014 F250 6.7 PSD 9400 miles [Re: claluja] #4662534
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I didn't know that the 6.7 had a reputation for shearing oil. I thought that was only for Ford diesels with the HEUI injection system. The 6.7 is HPCR, isn't it? It sheared the RT6 more than 10% twice. And I find it hard to believe that Redline 15w40 would shear at all. And that flashpoint of 415 seems low for RL 15w40. Maybe you have fuel dilution, and Blackstone isn't detecting it?


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Re: Red Line 15w40 HDEO 2014 F250 6.7 PSD 9400 miles [Re: claluja] #4662539
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T6 being a group III, there's a giant slug of VIIs in it. That it shears in just about every HDEO application is not unheard of. It's used in motorcycles with shared sumps and it shears greatly there, too. That does not mean it's failing it's job to protect against wear. It's just part of the beast; it seems to shear readily no matter what you put it in, if you run it long enough.

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The act of preventative maintenance, in and of itself, is FAR MORE important than brand/grade/base choices among lubes and filters.
- under maintaining something is akin to abuse/neglect; that can kill equipment by shortening the lifespan
- over maintaining something has never been proven to be anything but a waste of time and money
Re: Red Line 15w40 HDEO 2014 F250 6.7 PSD 9400 miles [Re: claluja] #4662562
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Has the engine ever run a GII+ 15w40 like Delo or Delvac guess 15w might be seasonal

Re: Red Line 15w40 HDEO 2014 F250 6.7 PSD 9400 miles [Re: 4WD] #4662568
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Originally Posted By: 4WD
Has the engine ever run a GII+ 15w40 like Delo or Delvac guess 15w might be seasonal


Yes, but never got UOAs with GII 15w40s. My UOAs are sporadic with this engine since no apparent serious issues.


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