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Why is Honda 0W-20 so expensive? Cost at dealer? #4656851
02/05/18 12:19 PM
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It's almost double the cost of what I'd pay for a 5 qt jug of Mobil 1 & Fram Ultra filter.

I really wanted to have the dealer service my wife's new HR-V, but I can't imagine what they'd charge if the cost for the fluids/filter are around $60 alone online. Does anyone know what an oil/filter change only typically run at a Honda dealer?

Re: Why is Honda 0W-20 so expensive? Cost at dealer? [Re: A_A_G] #4656855
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Most dealers charge way too much for oil. Exception is Toyota, their 0w20 synthetic is very reasonably priced (at least it was the last time I bought it)


2018 Corvette (M1 5w30 ESP Formula & Fram Ultra)
2006 Civic EX Coupe (PUP 5w20 & Fram Ultra)
2010 BMW 328i X-Drive (GC 0w40 & Fram Ultra)

Re: Why is Honda 0W-20 so expensive? Cost at dealer? [Re: Patman] #4656857
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its 59.95 at the dealer in the Seattle area for synthetic oil. that include tire rotation

Re: Why is Honda 0W-20 so expensive? Cost at dealer? [Re: Patman] #4656858
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Originally Posted By: Patman
Most dealers charge way too much for oil. Exception is Toyota, their 0w20 synthetic is very reasonably priced (at least it was the last time I bought it)


I remember that being the case when I thought about getting Toyota oil for my xB. I just checked Honda's and I was taken a step back at how expensive it is!


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Re: Why is Honda 0W-20 so expensive? Cost at dealer? [Re: A_A_G] #4656863
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Itís unlikely your Honda dealer will use Honda motor oil for a normal oil change. My Honda dealer uses Total products, my Acura dealer Castrol. If itís important to you to have service done at your dealer check their prices; you may be pleasantly surprised.

Importantly, thereís nothing magic about Hondaís engine oil and you sacrifice nothing by using an equivalent product. That said, asking the dealer what oil they use, what viscosity and whether itís a blend or full synthetic is prudent.

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Re: Why is Honda 0W-20 so expensive? Cost at dealer? [Re: A_A_G] #4656873
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Is not the Honda oil made by Mobil1?


2017 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring

Valvoline Advanced Synthetic 0w20
Mobil 1 M108A EP filter

Re: Why is Honda 0W-20 so expensive? Cost at dealer? [Re: A_A_G] #4656875
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If you really feel like you need Honda brand oil, hereís a dealer that sells it for a reasonable price. Either DIY it or carry the oil into your dealer or any mechanic and pay them for labor only. The crush washer on the oil pan drain bolt is supposed to be changed every time and Bernardi thoughtfully includes one with each oil filter purchase.

https://www.bernardiparts.com/Honda-Motor-Oils__08798-90XX.aspx

Last edited by Indydriver; 02/05/18 12:37 PM.

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Re: Why is Honda 0W-20 so expensive? Cost at dealer? [Re: A_A_G] #4656879
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Originally Posted By: A_A_G
Originally Posted By: Patman
Most dealers charge way too much for oil. Exception is Toyota, their 0w20 synthetic is very reasonably priced (at least it was the last time I bought it)


I remember that being the case when I thought about getting Toyota oil for my xB. I just checked Honda's and I was taken a step back at how expensive it is!



I'm not sure why you should be taken aback by any prices at the dealership. They don't call them stealerships for nothing.

Re: Why is Honda 0W-20 so expensive? Cost at dealer? [Re: Danh] #4656880
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Who makes Honda oil? This might answer your question. LINK

Re: Why is Honda 0W-20 so expensive? Cost at dealer? [Re: A_A_G] #4656894
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There is a reason many of us call dealers "stealer ships". They have these big fancy buildings and show rooms that they must heat and cool, and then dozens of employees on the payroll so they are not above padding and overcharging everything they can. Only time I will go to a dealer is for "free Recall work" I last went in for the Takata airbags on both Honda and Hyundais. About 10 years ago I did go to a local honda to replace a heater core and they charged an extra $25.00 for "shop supplies" when asked what it was and the service manager could not give me an answer other than "humman humana" I went to the gen manager and they refunded the $25.00. I suspect they jack up oil prices just like they jack up everything else. I dont know what an OC would run at a dealer and they probably would try and upsell. If not changing your own oil the best bet would be find a reliable independent shop. Wal mart probably has the cheapest oil prices , but I loath wal marts so dont mind spending a little more at NAPA or a farm store like TSC.


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Re: Why is Honda 0W-20 so expensive? Cost at dealer? [Re: Wolf359] #4656901
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Originally Posted By: Wolf359
I'm not sure why you should be taken aback by any prices at the dealership. They don't call them stealerships for nothing.


I was talking about the actual oil that Honda sells, not what a dealership charges to complete the service. It's over $10/quart which is insane.

Re: Why is Honda 0W-20 so expensive? Cost at dealer? [Re: A_A_G] #4656906
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"shop supplies" like the paperwork fees dealers are charging
now are profit centers that USED to be considered cost of doing
business. The paper towels used to wipe up the anti-freeze for the
heater core change above or wiping grease off zerks on a HD pickup truck
are added to most all bills.


My 2Ę


There's no such thing as:
Too big of a battery,
Too large of a gas tank,
or too loud of a horn,
or too bright headlights.
Re: Why is Honda 0W-20 so expensive? Cost at dealer? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4656927
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Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
Who makes Honda oil? This might answer your question. LINK



Thanks for this info. I believe M1 was the prior maker but CP is now making it.


2017 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring

Valvoline Advanced Synthetic 0w20
Mobil 1 M108A EP filter

Re: Why is Honda 0W-20 so expensive? Cost at dealer? [Re: A_A_G] #4656938
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I've never used HGMO in any of my Hondas. I've also never been to a dealer service dept that actually uses HGMO.


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2013 Honda Pilot EX-L 4WD -- 56K
2002 Honda Accord EX-L -- 211K

Re: Why is Honda 0W-20 so expensive? Cost at dealer? [Re: A_A_G] #4656972
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Unless HGMO is sold in bulk, there's no dealership that would use it for a garden variety oil change, too expensive, esp. 0W20. It's hard enough getting them to use anything but bulk 5W30!

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