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Lubeguard Red in T-IV or DW-1 #4654751
02/03/18 12:07 PM
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Drew1987 Offline OP
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Hey all

I was told lubrguard red is a great product. I run very fresh (3x drain/fill since 11-2017) T-IV aka Mobil 3309 in my 2002 Lexus with a U150e and 108,000 Miles. There is somewhat fresh (its on my todo list) DW-1 in my 2009 Honda Odyssey 5spd ect. I was thinking of using the Lubeguard Red for its conditioning/protective aspects. Any info on the product?


Thanks all

Re: Lubeguard Red in T-IV or DW-1 [Re: Drew1987] #4654759
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I would add it esp to a fluid like T-IV. I know a guy from another Honda forum that works on cars for a living. This was the only additive that he recommended. One of the best trans shops by him would always add a quart to the trans after a rebuild.

Although prob not needed for an HM full synthetic atf like Maxlife fyi.

Re: Lubeguard Red in T-IV or DW-1 [Re: Drew1987] #4654766
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Funny you say that about Maxlife. Almost switched to it from T-IV but for $5/qt I just will drain and fill more often with T-IV. I get nervous about mixing the maxlife with the T-IV and also don’t like the idea of doing flush with the cooler lines and buckets with a 16 year old transmission.

As for great Honda, I very well may switch to Transmax or Maxlife and that tranny is prolly going to grenade anyway so maybe one of the full synthetics can add some time

Re: Lubeguard Red in T-IV or DW-1 [Re: Drew1987] #4654767
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The Lubegard will work fine with no problems, but you'd probably get better results by just using a full synthetic ATF such as the popular Maxlife, or Castrol's Full Synthetic ATF, which is currently on sale at Autozone, 2 quarts for $10. The sale is on for 5 more days. The sale price is valid for any multiple of 2, with no limit.

The Castrol Full Synthetic ATF is good on all Toyota automatic transmissions, and is also a good choice for your Ody smile

No need to flush any transmission, especially since both of yours have a drain plug. If you want to flush, simply do the 3x drain and fill. But even a single drain and fill using the mfr-suggested intervals is sufficient smile

The T-IV/3309 will mix with other fluids with no problems

Re: Lubeguard Red in T-IV or DW-1 [Re: SatinSilver] #4654781
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Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
I would add it esp to a fluid like T-IV. I know a guy from another Honda forum that works on cars for a living. This was the only additive that he recommended. One of the best trans shops by him would always add a quart to the trans after a rebuild.

Although prob not needed for an HM full synthetic atf like Maxlife fyi.


What's your basis to add it to a modern fluid like T-IV?

Re: Lubeguard Red in T-IV or DW-1 [Re: Drew1987] #4654802
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So if both cars got, say, 4 drain/fills within a week, the quart or so that would be left of the original stuff is fine?

The U150e just acts lazy. But that’s how they were new. lubeguard promises to improve shifts. I don’t want to feel them, but they need to be faster. I also want 350,000 miles out of it OR Have a lift to change it. The former is better regardless and the latter isn’t in my near future.

As for the ody, those transmissions suck any way, and it’s been acting a bit wierd. I’m committed enough to the vehicle (I’ve disabled VCM, done the timing belt, done the axels, am about to do motor mounts) so an $800 used tranny if the same/less money to DIY rebuild mine makes sense

Re: Lubeguard Red in T-IV or DW-1 [Re: Drew1987] #4654810
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Originally Posted By: Drew1987
So if both cars got, say, 4 drain/fills within a week, the quart or so that would be left of the original stuff is fine?


correct thumbsup

Re: Lubeguard Red in T-IV or DW-1 [Re: JHZR2] #4654814
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Originally Posted By: JHZR2
What's your basis to add it to a modern fluid like T-IV?


Not sure how modern it is. Maybe compared to an older MB's atf it's modern. It's not a full-syn atf either as mentioned. There seems to be many benefits by using it. The info on the Amazon ad sounds promising. LINK

I remember years ago you bought some and offered it for free on here. Apparently, not seeing a need for it. smile


Re: Lubeguard Red in T-IV or DW-1 [Re: Drew1987] #4654818
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Originally Posted By: Drew1987
So if both cars got, say, 4 drain/fills within a week, the quart or so that would be left of the original stuff is fine?

The U150e just acts lazy. But that’s how they were new. lubeguard promises to improve shifts. I don’t want to feel them, but they need to be faster. I also want 350,000 miles out of it OR Have a lift to change it. The former is better regardless and the latter isn’t in my near future.


Wait a minute, so you just did 3 df's back in November? Prob the best thing for it would be a pan drop to replace the filter. Top off with approx. 4 qts atf and 1 qt LGR. thumbsup

Per the instructions add final qt of LGR with engine running and trans in park.

Re: Lubeguard Red in T-IV or DW-1 [Re: Drew1987] #4654822
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I believe their WS is an improvement, but t-iv isn’t “special” I just trust it from being in so many 300,000 mile dealer serviced Toyota products, you know? Sat in a 502,000 mile LS400 once. T-IV all the way. Doesn’t mean something new isn’t better, but I tend to be an “old dog”

Re: Lubeguard Red in T-IV or DW-1 [Re: Drew1987] #4654829
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You can call them and ask for help. They're an American family-owned company that makes very good products. They don't over promise and are very realistic about how to use their products.

Re: Lubeguard Red in T-IV or DW-1 [Re: Drew1987] #4654837
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Drew1987 Offline OP
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Lubeguard you mean, right?

Re: Lubeguard Red in T-IV or DW-1 [Re: Drew1987] #4654845
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Usage of Lubegard is 1Q ATF with 1oz Lubeguard. If the transmission capacity is 8-10Q, then dump the entire 10oz bottle and get done with it.
Now any transmission will like the Lubeguard Red and is can be used with syn and sem-syn fluids.
Having said that in no way is T-IV inferior that by adding Lubeguard will make it superior. That is simply nonsense.


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Re: Lubeguard Red in T-IV or DW-1 [Re: Drew1987] #4654880
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Check it out from the maker. Too many arm chair quarterbacks giving advice.

http://www.lubegard.com/~/C-112/LUBEGARD+Automatic+Transmission+Fluid+Protectant


The "thinking" man's friend.
Re: Lubeguard Red in T-IV or DW-1 [Re: Drew1987] #4654883
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Drew1987 Offline OP
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When I was a kid, I used to drain and fill every 20,000 and substitute one qt of ATF with Lucas. I beat the [censored] out of that
Car and it shifted great when I sadly sold it at 147,000. There may be something to the added packages aftermarket contains. That said, perhaps the Transmax will go in the ody. I think Walmart sells a gallon for under $20. 3 or 4 of those should do it.

Speaking of trannies, can anyone speak to dipstick unreliability? The u150e shows “full/hot” after an hour of driving. Shut it off and the next day, when Ice cold, NOTIING shows on the dipstick. 0.6 qt and it’s at the lower side of “full/cold” there are others with the same trans that have the same issue. I run it on the “safe” side and measure when cold


Can’t even find tne “right” way to check the ody. Running and hot is what I do, 4
Quarts came out, 4 went in and the stick shows
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