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#4653931 - 02/02/18 01:07 PM blown hg; options
tomcat27 Offline


Registered: 06/25/09
Posts: 3564
Loc: Chicago, IL
blown head gasket on 2001 Camry (only 112k miles) due to overheating from collision and radiator damage. (apparently the temperature gauge is just a decoration and does not need to be watched)
do I:

1) just sand the head on a flat surface
2) mill at machine shop
3) mill @ machine shop, replace seals, check valves
4) re-man'd head

long-term keeper.


Edited by tomcat27 (02/02/18 01:07 PM)
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#4653933 - 02/02/18 01:09 PM Re: blown hg; options [Re: tomcat27]
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Registered: 12/24/11
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Pop a used low-mile engine in it.
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#4653943 - 02/02/18 01:19 PM Re: blown hg; options [Re: tomcat27]
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Registered: 09/27/15
Posts: 1421
Loc: USA
If it was driven until it would go no more, the whole engine is toast.

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#4653947 - 02/02/18 01:24 PM Re: blown hg; options [Re: tomcat27]
tomcat27 Offline


Registered: 06/25/09
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Loc: Chicago, IL
it was driven 5 miles. seems to run fine; except for the hg.
I have no idea how hot it got; I got a phone call when steam was noticed from the hood

I put a radiator and condenser in it and straightened the radiator support


Edited by tomcat27 (02/02/18 01:26 PM)
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#4653963 - 02/02/18 01:43 PM Re: blown hg; options [Re: tomcat27]
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At work we have repaired many aluminum head engines that over heated to the point of the valve seats falling out . You need to have a machine shop check and straighten the head if it needs to be straightened. Also measure the block with a straight edge to make sure it is flat.
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#4653966 - 02/02/18 01:44 PM Re: blown hg; options [Re: tomcat27]
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Registered: 06/05/03
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Originally Posted By: tomcat27
it was driven 5 miles. seems to run fine; except for the hg.
I have no idea how hot it got; I got a phone call when steam was noticed from the hood

I put a radiator and condenser in it and straightened the radiator support
it got hot enough to crush the head gasket! Its likely that the low tension piston rings are junk now too.


Edited by Chris142 (02/02/18 01:44 PM)
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#4653967 - 02/02/18 01:48 PM Re: blown hg; options [Re: Chris142]
tomcat27 Offline


Registered: 06/25/09
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Loc: Chicago, IL
Originally Posted By: Chris142
Its likely that the low tension piston rings are junk now too.


I would rather do things correctly - once. hmm. interesting on the rings. so, dis-assemble the engine or put in a reman engine.

I want the car to last through 3 kids. I know... silly me. the first one is doing his best to kill it.
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#4653970 - 02/02/18 01:53 PM Re: blown hg; options [Re: tomcat27]
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Registered: 06/25/09
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Loc: Chicago, IL
I will run a compression test later; and send the head to the shop; or consider a rebuild. probably do that myself. unless someone can recommend a Jasper..... (sorry; twisted humor on my part)
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#4653974 - 02/02/18 01:56 PM Re: blown hg; options [Re: tomcat27]
OneEyeJack Offline


Registered: 09/14/10
Posts: 7479
Loc: S California
If you're going to do the work, give the head to a machine shop. Let them redo everything as needed. Then just clean everything up and put it all back together.

If you're new at this do a lot of research. YouTube is your friend and books too. Be clean and organized. Take lots of pictures as you go and keep all the parts separate somewhere in groups.

Find a manual that gives you step by step instructions. Don't hurry. Be clean. And did I suggest, take lots of pictures. If someone helps be careful that they don't do things you don't see or understand. Take pictures. Make your help keep bits and pieces sorted and in some kind of understandable order.

Use new engine oil and filter. Change them a couple of times in the first thousand miles.

Clean out the cooling system. Replace the water pump and thermostat. Use new coolant and distilled water. Find out what coolant to use. It makes a difference.

Have fun.

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#4653980 - 02/02/18 02:09 PM Re: blown hg; options [Re: tomcat27]
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Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 3908
Loc: California
If you want to do the job right, pull the head and send that into a machine shop for any correction that needs to be done, might be a good time for a valve job as well. Check the block with a straight edge and a feeler gauge for warping. I doubt Toyota switched over to low-tension rings on a 5S-FE. Use OEM or Fel-Pro gaskets and flush out the cooling system. I'd use Toyota Red or Zerex Asian formula from now on.

You can also get a used "30K" motor from Japan, but you're going to roll the dice. The good news with a used engine is that it's in a state for you to teardown and replace what needs to be replaced.

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#4653990 - 02/02/18 02:22 PM Re: blown hg; options [Re: tomcat27]
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Registered: 12/16/11
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Loc: Connecticut 06033
Year, make, model, engine,millage???????????.
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#4654001 - 02/02/18 02:49 PM Re: blown hg; options [Re: tomcat27]
tomcat27 Offline


Registered: 06/25/09
Posts: 3564
Loc: Chicago, IL
2001 Toyota Camry. 112,000 miles. (in the original post) 2.2l I have the genuine Toyota Factory service manual. I've used Zerex red coolant. about 1k ago I replaced the timing belt and water pump. I'm no stranger to "bagging and tagging" parts; and taking photos. I used to have a perfect memory. not so much anymore.


Edited by tomcat27 (02/02/18 02:49 PM)
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#4654002 - 02/02/18 02:58 PM Re: blown hg; options [Re: tomcat27]
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Registered: 03/06/16
Posts: 1345
Loc: toronto
You say head, singular so I assume 2.2? Doesn't take much movement to break a 2.2 Camry head gasket seal- have dealt with a few, including my own. I seriously doubt the rest of the engine is toast though. The rings are 1.2mm thick (as opposed to the old school 1.5mm rings) so it's possible? they're compromised, of course you'd have to test compression to know for sure wink I'd gamble on there being no more damage than just the HG. 5 miles is nothing, so doubts are there about loose valve guides also, but that all needs to be verified. 112K miles isn't so much at all.

For reference, some engines are designed to travel quite a few more miles than that with no coolant- without sustaining excessive damage. There are even ECU programs that shut some cylinders down for "air cooling" effects. But as I said, it doesn't take much to pop a Toyota S-engine head gasket- by far the weakest point of an otherwise tough engine that should still be serviceable.

Best of luck!

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#4654007 - 02/02/18 03:03 PM Re: blown hg; options [Re: tomcat27]
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Registered: 08/13/11
Posts: 1948
Loc: Lakeside, CA
Look up JDM engines. IMHO I think that would be a good option for you
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#4654010 - 02/02/18 03:06 PM Re: blown hg; options [Re: tomcat27]
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Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 10179
Loc: OH
Do you know where in the Midwest you're located?

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