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PQIA 2016 and 2017 Testing results for Castrol GTX #4653069
02/01/18 11:23 AM
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I was just looking at the PQIA oil test results and noticed that Castrol GTX 5W-20 was tested in 2016 and 2017 with different results showing as the 2017 shows TBN at 8.68 Calcium at 2,668 ppm Boron 195 Zinc 817 Molybdenum 86. The 2016 test shows TBN 7.71 Calcium 2,344 ppm Boron 80 Zinc 827 PQIA Molybdenum <1 . Looks like some slight changes were made from 2016 to 2017 .

Re: PQIA 2016 and 2017 Testing results for Castrol GTX [Re: mctmatt] #4653080
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Since GTX 5w-20 was discontinued and rebranded as GTX Ultraclean 5w-20, I wonder if the stuff that PQIA tested in 2017 was actually Ultraclean, but still in the old bottle. Sometimes there is a lag and manufacturer wants to use up the already produced bottles, but will start filling them with new formulation.




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Re: PQIA 2016 and 2017 Testing results for Castrol GTX [Re: Quattro Pete] #4653140
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You might be right but I was not aware that they have discontinued the regular GTX to be replaced by the Ultra Clean. Their web site still offers both .

Re: PQIA 2016 and 2017 Testing results for Castrol GTX [Re: mctmatt] #4653148
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Originally Posted By: mctmatt
but I was not aware that they have discontinued the regular GTX to be replaced by the Ultra Clean. Their web site still offers both .

Maybe I'm not reading it right, but to me it sounds like GTX 5w-20 and 5w-30 was replaced with GTX Ultraclean...

https://www.castrol.com/en_us/united-states/motor-oil/conventional-motor-oil/gtx-motor-oil.html

Quote:
CASTROL GTX MOTOR OIL IS AVAILABLE IN THE FOLLOWING GRADES: 10W-30, 10W-40 AND 20W-50.
CASTROL GTX ULTRACLEAN MOTOR OIL IS AVAILABLE IN THE FOLLOWING GRADES: 5W-20 AND 5W-30.


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Re: PQIA 2016 and 2017 Testing results for Castrol GTX [Re: Quattro Pete] #4653164
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: mctmatt
but I was not aware that they have discontinued the regular GTX to be replaced by the Ultra Clean. Their web site still offers both .

Maybe I'm not reading it right, but to me it sounds like GTX 5w-20 and 5w-30 was replaced with GTX Ultraclean...

https://www.castrol.com/en_us/united-states/motor-oil/conventional-motor-oil/gtx-motor-oil.html

Quote:
CASTROL GTX MOTOR OIL IS AVAILABLE IN THE FOLLOWING GRADES: 10W-30, 10W-40 AND 20W-50.
CASTROL GTX ULTRACLEAN MOTOR OIL IS AVAILABLE IN THE FOLLOWING GRADES: 5W-20 AND 5W-30.



At work at the auto parts store it seems that 5w-20 and 5w-30 are labeled as "Ultraclean" while 10w-30, 10w-40, and 20w-50 are not.

Last edited by dogememe; 02/01/18 12:56 PM.

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Re: PQIA 2016 and 2017 Testing results for Castrol GTX [Re: mctmatt] #4653220
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Originally Posted By: mctmatt
You might be right but I was not aware that they have discontinued the regular GTX to be replaced by the Ultra Clean. Their web site still offers both .


They haven't and that's what Castrol told me in an email. That's just another BITOG bad rumor!


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In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
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Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
Re: PQIA 2016 and 2017 Testing results for Castrol GTX [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4653229
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
Originally Posted By: mctmatt
You might be right but I was not aware that they have discontinued the regular GTX to be replaced by the Ultra Clean. Their web site still offers both .


They haven't and that's what Castrol told me in an email. That's just another BITOG bad rumor!

How is that a bad rumor when the castrol link I posted above clearly states that?


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Re: PQIA 2016 and 2017 Testing results for Castrol GTX [Re: mctmatt] #4653233
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I can only go by what shows on the PQIA site as both bottles only show as Castrol GTX 5W-20 and it provides different data results for the 2016 test as compared to the 2017 test. If the 2017 bottle is something different than what is being shown and described on the site, then PQIA would need to explain that I would think.

Re: PQIA 2016 and 2017 Testing results for Castrol GTX [Re: mctmatt] #4653255
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Originally Posted By: mctmatt
If the 2017 bottle is something different than what is being shown and described on the site, then PQIA would need to explain that I would think.

How would PQIA know what Castrol actually put in that bottle?

I just threw out a guess that maybe that's what happened. Or maybe it didn't.

But that GTX 5W-20 was superseded by GTX Ultraclean 5W-20 is not a rumor, as JohnnyJohnson claims. It's pretty clear based on Castrol's website info.


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Re: PQIA 2016 and 2017 Testing results for Castrol GTX [Re: Quattro Pete] #4653296
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: mctmatt
If the 2017 bottle is something different than what is being shown and described on the site, then PQIA would need to explain that I would think.

How would PQIA know what Castrol actually put in that bottle?

I just threw out a guess that maybe that's what happened. Or maybe it didn't.

But that GTX 5W-20 was superseded by GTX Ultraclean 5W-20 is not a rumor, as JohnnyJohnson claims. It's pretty clear based on Castrol's website info.


LOL their current webpage

https://www.castrol.com/en_us/united-states/motor-oil/full-synthetic-motor-oil.html

You're full of ............

If you found the place on that site that says what you're claiming give us the URL Big Boy~

Last edited by JohnnyJohnson; 02/01/18 03:52 PM.

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In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
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Re: PQIA 2016 and 2017 Testing results for Castrol GTX [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4653327
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
LOL their current webpage

https://www.castrol.com/en_us/united-states/motor-oil/full-synthetic-motor-oil.html

You're full of ............

If you found the place on that site that says what you're claiming give us the URL Big Boy~

I posted it earlier:
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ub...ing#Post4653148

Please try to keep up.


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Re: PQIA 2016 and 2017 Testing results for Castrol GTX [Re: mctmatt] #4653343
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You can't find GTX (only) 5W20 or 5w30 around here anymore. Only GTX I see is 10w30/40. The Castrol GTX 5w20 and 5w30 now available is Ultraclean.

https://www.castrol.com/en_us/united-states/motor-oil/conventional-motor-oil/gtx-motor-oil.html


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Re: PQIA 2016 and 2017 Testing results for Castrol GTX [Re: mctmatt] #4653375
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Some recent GTX VOAs on BITOG from Member Researcher

Here is the regular GTX 5W20
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4483036/

Here is the UltraClean GTX 5W30
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4507347/


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Castrol GTX Ultraclean 15W40 A3/B3 + Wesfil-Cooper Z154
Re: PQIA 2016 and 2017 Testing results for Castrol GTX [Re: Quattro Pete] #4653390
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: mctmatt
but I was not aware that they have discontinued the regular GTX to be replaced by the Ultra Clean. Their web site still offers both .

Maybe I'm not reading it right, but to me it sounds like GTX 5w-20 and 5w-30 was replaced with GTX Ultraclean...

https://www.castrol.com/en_us/united-states/motor-oil/conventional-motor-oil/gtx-motor-oil.html

Quote:
CASTROL GTX MOTOR OIL IS AVAILABLE IN THE FOLLOWING GRADES: 10W-30, 10W-40 AND 20W-50.
CASTROL GTX ULTRACLEAN MOTOR OIL IS AVAILABLE IN THE FOLLOWING GRADES: 5W-20 AND 5W-30.



That says nothing about it replacing Magnatec it suggests its part of the GTX oil family and that Its conventional oil. They just put up a new online ad for more GTX Magnatec 5w-20/30 oil here at Walmart this lie has continued since November and the oil is still here.

So much for rumor on BITOG!

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Castrol-GTX-MAGNATEC-5W-30-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-5-QT/44580669

Last edited by JohnnyJohnson; 02/01/18 05:58 PM.

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Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74478
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
Re: PQIA 2016 and 2017 Testing results for Castrol GTX [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4653400
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
That says nothing about it replacing Magnatec

Who said anything about Magnatec???


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