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#4652371 - 01/31/18 05:32 PM Station wagons. Coming back or still bad memories?
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This kind of segues from another thread where I commented that in my opinion the station wagon is coming back. Iím old enough to remember the giant Olds Vista Cruiser and the Fords with the peeling fake wood trim on the exterior.

I saw a article on www.caranddriver.com regarding the new Buick Regal. Most station wagons today are crossovers like the Subaru Outback, Mazda CX-9, Volvo XC, and so forth. Mazda will be building a new station wagon style crossover in Alabama when their new assembly plant opens.

So what say you all? Would you buy one? Have you owned one? Your predictions on this subject are welcome.
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#4652373 - 01/31/18 05:34 PM Re: Station wagons. Coming back or still bad memories? [Re: PimTac]
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They never went away in the Euro segment. Estates have remained popular. I remember one guy from M5board swapped the M5 powertrain into his E39 estate and made quite the little sleeper.
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#4652378 - 01/31/18 05:38 PM Re: Station wagons. Coming back or still bad memories? [Re: PimTac]
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always loved 'em, and wished they would come back.

were i in the financial position to buy that Buick wagon when it comes to my local dealer, I would.
but alas, I am not, nor will i be in the foreseeable future....
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#4652380 - 01/31/18 05:40 PM Re: Station wagons. Coming back or still bad memories? [Re: PimTac]
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They are still popular here.
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#4652386 - 01/31/18 05:41 PM Re: Station wagons. Coming back or still bad memories? [Re: PimTac]
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
Would you buy one?

Yes, as long as it has a V8, RWD, and possibly manual trans.
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#4652387 - 01/31/18 05:42 PM Re: Station wagons. Coming back or still bad memories? [Re: PimTac]
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I had a Taurus wagon and really like it. I think there will always be a place for wagons. My tombstone will read " I never owned a mini-van".

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#4652390 - 01/31/18 05:44 PM Re: Station wagons. Coming back or still bad memories? [Re: PimTac]
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Registered: 09/14/10
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.... but you can't call them station wagons. They now require a different name like SUV or sports wagon or just about anything but a station wagon.

I have an 03 4Runner that I consider a 4-door pickup with a very good camper shell but really it's just a variation on the station wagon theme.

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#4652391 - 01/31/18 05:46 PM Re: Station wagons. Coming back or still bad memories? [Re: PimTac]
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I've always liked wagons. Sadly, she does not...

I'd love to find a 5 speed XC70 P2.
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#4652404 - 01/31/18 05:55 PM Re: Station wagons. Coming back or still bad memories? [Re: PimTac]
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They never went away, just morphed into minivan and SUVs.
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#4652410 - 01/31/18 06:04 PM Re: Station wagons. Coming back or still bad memories? [Re: PimTac]
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Registered: 08/03/17
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Loc: MN
I'd love to have a Mercedes E63 AMG wagon. 600 horse in a grocery getter.

The new Volvo wagon is gorgeous. Not the cross country... The regular one. Amazing.

I do like the look of that new Regal wagon, just wish they wouldn't put all that cladding on it. It's not an SUV... don't they realize that no one in the US wants a "wagon" crossover? Just let it be a wagon.
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#4652415 - 01/31/18 06:08 PM Re: Station wagons. Coming back or still bad memories? [Re: 14Accent]
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On my 3rd V70 station wagon. All used, all loved.
over 25 mpg = wagon
under 25mpg = Crossover

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#4652416 - 01/31/18 06:10 PM Re: Station wagons. Coming back or still bad memories? [Re: PandaBear]
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Originally Posted By: PandaBear
They never went away, just morphed into minivan and SUVs.



There was a metamorphosis of sorts but the minivans were a prelude in many ways to todayís crossovers and the suv Of yesterday. People enjoyed the ride height of them and the versatility that kept being added to them.

I think the v8 is headed for the history books. Todayís V6 is pretty much capable of anything the v8 could do except the gas mileage.

Being this is BITOG, I know someone who drove a beater Ford Fairlane wagon. This was in the early eighties. That car burned oil faster than he could pour it in and he found out one day while climbing a steep hill downtown that engines do blow up without oil in them. Sad too as that car had the fake wood trim sides that were peeling, thus my description above in the beginning post.
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#4652422 - 01/31/18 06:13 PM Re: Station wagons. Coming back or still bad memories? [Re: OVERKILL]
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Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
They never went away in the Euro segment. Estates have remained popular. I remember one guy from M5board swapped the M5 powertrain into his E39 estate and made quite the little sleeper.



Iíve noticed that too. Volkswagen and Audi are pretty competitive as are BMW and the rest in the wagon segment. Europeans seem to inject practicality more in their buying decisions than do Americans.
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#4652424 - 01/31/18 06:13 PM Re: Station wagons. Coming back or still bad memories? [Re: PimTac]
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Station wagons are lower and have lower roof lines inside for fitting bulky things compared to a crossover like a CRV or a RAV4, so what purpose do they serve?
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#4652435 - 01/31/18 06:22 PM Re: Station wagons. Coming back or still bad memories? [Re: PimTac]
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Loc: Midwest
If I could afford to go out and drop 40K on a loaded Regal TourX, I would in a heartbeat. My father was die-hard with wagons having gone through a Caprice diesel, Subaru Legacy, B5 Avant, C6 Avant, and an Accord wagon he bought to drive while the Audi's were in the shop. My second car / college car / going out into the world car was the B5 Avant, and I loved it too as a practical driving machine.

The only thing I don't like about the Regal is the tragic plastic off-road-whatever cladding stuck on there like the Allroad. I doubt it will sell well, which is unfortunate, but I don't blame people for buying SUV's and crossovers over wagons.
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