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Valvoline Modern Engine PDS now up. #4651630
01/30/18 10:38 PM
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Valvoline has updated their website to show the PDS for VME. A few days ago they put up the info for VAS.

https://sharena21.springcm.com/Public/Do...12-ac162d889bd1


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Re: Valvoline Modern Engine PDS now up. [Re: PimTac] #4651650
01/30/18 11:36 PM
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Good find my friend.

I like the NOACK of 11 percent. Interesting how both Zn and phos are 850 and 800. Kinematic viscosity is within range but the low end of it for a 30 grade at 9.8. Hey the 5w20 is at 9... Interesting. Wonder what the HTHS is?? I'd bet it's right at 3.0. Which is fine obviously. Just hope this stuff stays strong and in grade throughout an entire run. I would bet it does.

Though I just got some Valvoline white bottle for my next run. However, I also have 5 qts of the Valvoline Modern Engine 5w30 as well after that.


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Re: Valvoline Modern Engine PDS now up. [Re: PimTac] #4651660
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Thank PimTac
For the price. I'd just stick with VFS.


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13 Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: Mobil1 Extended Performance 10W30 + OEM + e air WIX49670

Re: Valvoline Modern Engine PDS now up. [Re: PimTac] #4651663
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I am already planning to run VAS for the remainder of this year but if I see a good price on VME I will consider it. Valvoline is a bit weak on their marketing here. They difference between these two oils is not clearly defined. That will not stop me from using it either.

Im glad to see that their conventional oil is still in a white bottle although the name is now Daily Protection which really makes no sense whatsoever. Still a good oil.


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Re: Valvoline Modern Engine PDS now up. [Re: wemay] #4651671
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Ya know Wemay AZ has both Valvoline Advanced full synthetic and Valvoline Modern Engine for $26.99 with the STP XL filter. Fairly decent deal there. The Valvoline Modern Engine is $44.97 vs $37.97 for the Valvoline Advanced full synthetic. But they both are the same for that $26.99 deal. Makes me wonder if and when it shows up in Wally World what the price will be?? I'm guessing $29.97 for 5 qt container.

PimTac I think Valvoline took the overseas name for VWB and brought it here to the US. But I can't say for sure. I do like a simple oil like this has well. No need to shot for the stars all the time smile


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Re: Valvoline Modern Engine PDS now up. [Re: PimTac] #4651698
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If that were the price here, I'd be all over it. But i passed by Advanced and AZ today and it was still $44 with no filter. But I'm sure it will vomr fown a bit. I wonder if it may show up at Wal-Mart too.


18 Sportage 2.4L AWD: Mobil1 Annual Protection 5W20 + Mobil1-104A + e air WIX10335
13 Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: Mobil1 Extended Performance 10W30 + OEM + e air WIX49670

Re: Valvoline Modern Engine PDS now up. [Re: PimTac] #4651711
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Just been looking at the PDS for the aussie supplied Synpower 5W-40 that I'm currently running and it's changed. The PDS from 2013 has changed from

FM Effective 1-04-2013
Performance Levels/Approvals
API SN /CF
ACEA A3/B4
Meets requirements of:
BMW LL-01
MB 229.3
GM-LL-B-025
VW 502.00, 505.00
Renault RN700, RN710

SynPower 5W-40
SAE Viscosity Grade 5W-40
Viscosity @ 100 C, mm2/s, ASTM D445 13.6
Viscosity @ 40 C, mm2/s, ASTM D445 81
Viscosity Index, ASTM D2270 173
CCS Viscosity @ -30 C, mPa.s, ASTM D5293 5400
Density @ 15C, kg/L, ASTM D4052 0.853
Flash Point (COC), C, ASTM D92 236
Pour Point, C, ASTM D5950 -42
TBN, mg KOH/g, ASTM D2896 10.5
Noack, %mass, ASTM D5800 11.4

to

FM Effective 03--07-2017
SynpowerTM SAE 5W-40*
SAE 5W-40
API SN/CF
ACEA A3/B4
Meets requirements of:
MB 229.3
GM-LL-B-025
VW 502.00/ 505.00
Renault RN710, RN700

SynPowerTM SAE 5W-40 Typical
SAE Viscosity Grade 5W-40
Viscosity @ 100 C, mm2/s, ASTM D445 14.2
Viscosity @ 40 C, mm2/s, ASTM D445 85.0
Viscosity Index, ASTM D2270 173
Density @ 15C, kg/L, ASTM D4052 0.853
Total Base Number, mg KOH/g, ASTM D2896 10.0
CCS Viscosity, mPa.s @ 30C, ASTM D5293 5700
Flash Point (COC), C, ASTM D92 226
Pour Point, C, ASTM D5950 -39

It's now 0.6 thicker at 100c TBN has dropped 0.5 and pour point dropped 3 dg and lost LL-01. Seems to be a case of swings and roundabouts as far as whether it's now better or worse. I don't know whether we will get a rename or will stay as Synpower.


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96 Toyota 80 Series 1HZ Sakura C-1112 Nulon High Torque 15w-40
Re: Valvoline Modern Engine PDS now up. [Re: wemay] #4652263
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Originally Posted By: wemay
Thank PimTac
For the price. I'd just stick with VFS.


Wemay: couldn't have stated it any better smile


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PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Valvoline Modern Engine PDS now up. [Re: PimTac] #4652559
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didn't think a noack above 10 was so great + with Pennzoils typical lack of HTHS me thinks they are hiding a lesser spec!!

Re: Valvoline Modern Engine PDS now up. [Re: benjy] #4652615
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ILSAC 30 grades aren't exactly hiding HTHS. You can guess the HTHS within 0.1 99% of the time. With a 40 grade European, you're not going to find a huge variation above or below 3.7, either.


Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, NAPA Gold 7356
1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515

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