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Volkswagen Group Tops List for Sales 2017 #4651295
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https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20180130_24/

Volkswagen Group #1, Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi #2, and Toyota Group #3 for worldwide sales.




Re: Volkswagen Group Tops List for Sales 2017 [Re: PimTac] #4651302
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However VW never has nor never will get the US market.

Re: Volkswagen Group Tops List for Sales 2017 [Re: madRiver] #4651312
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Originally Posted By: madRiver
However VW never has nor never will get the US market.
I could see VW taking compact/economy segment. Never gonna touch the SUVS/Trucks America makes. Also if VW was gonna be more successful they would have more dealers. At least in Kansas they are lacking in some larger towns.


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Re: Volkswagen Group Tops List for Sales 2017 [Re: madRiver] #4651314
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Originally Posted By: madRiver
However VW never has nor never will get the US market.
Never say never.


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Re: Volkswagen Group Tops List for Sales 2017 [Re: FordBroncoVWJeta] #4651322
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Originally Posted By: FordBroncoVWJeta
Originally Posted By: madRiver
However VW never has nor never will get the US market.
I could see VW taking compact/economy segment. Never gonna touch the SUVS/Trucks America makes. Also if VW was gonna be more successful they would have more dealers. At least in Kansas they are lacking in some larger towns.



If you are talking full size SUVs then yess the Big 2 and Fiat have that market but the trend is towards smaller crossovers and this is a worldwide phenomena. Even in the US, itís a growing segment each year.




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The US automakers were forced by regulations to convert their buyers into SUV and truck buyers. America was always a car country and trucks were reserved to work detail. When I was young there was no such animal as a cowboy Cadillac.
The rest of the world likes cars for the most part and China will be if it already isn't the largest market segment. America has become for the most part a county of pickup and imported econobox owners through no fault of their own.


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Re: Volkswagen Group Tops List for Sales 2017 [Re: PimTac] #4651371
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All these poor VW buying souls, if only they had sampled from the fountain of reliability aka Toyota. One can only hope they will see the light one day. LOL


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Re: Volkswagen Group Tops List for Sales 2017 [Re: KrisZ] #4651389
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Originally Posted By: KrisZ
All these poor VW buying souls, if only they had sampled from the fountain of reliability aka Toyota. One can only hope they will see the light one day. LOL
I wish I had learned about Toyota before buying my VWs. All my VWs have CELs on and sound like diesel engines even though they are gassers. Would not buy another one again. crazy crush [/sarcasm]


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Re: Volkswagen Group Tops List for Sales 2017 [Re: Trav] #4651398
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Originally Posted By: Trav
The US automakers were forced by regulations to convert their buyers into SUV and truck buyers. America was always a car country and trucks were reserved to work detail. When I was young there was no such animal as a cowboy Cadillac.
The rest of the world likes cars for the most part and China will be if it already isn't the largest market segment. America has become for the most part a county of pickup and imported econobox owners through no fault of their own.




We may be in the same age group. Yes, when growing up there were no SUVs. Station wagons ruled for large families. The one car family was also the norm. Pickup trucks were work vehicles.

Over time as the two car family became the norm some families decided that a pickup was perfect for that second car. Station wagons dropped out of favor when Chrysler brought their minivan to the market. The other automakers followed. However there was a split. Families that enjoyed outdoor activities like camping, fishing, hunting went to SUVs. Over time the minivan popularity waned as the features of the SUV like higher driving position and getting around in snow caught on. Todayís crossovers are an extension of that as EPA regulations have driven the automakers to lighter and more fuel efficient crossovers.

Itís also a regional thing. In the Midwest, full size pickups rule. In the PNW for example, crossovers are huge. I would think So Cal is totally different.

Today we have crossovers in all size classes from sub compact to full size. Just my opinion here but I think the station wagon is coming back but in a crossover form. VW has had great success in this area. Subaru and Mazda also are doing well and looking at this. Expect Mazda to announce a new CX soon to be built at their new Alabama plant shared with Toyota. It will be a station wagon. The prototype pics Iíve seen are actually very nice.

https://www.motoring.com.au/mazda-cx-x-suv-confirmed-110065/


Sorry for rambling on.




Re: Volkswagen Group Tops List for Sales 2017 [Re: Trav] #4651412
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Originally Posted By: Trav
The US automakers were forced by regulations to convert their buyers into SUV and truck buyers. America was always a car country and trucks were reserved to work detail. When I was young there was no such animal as a cowboy Cadillac.
The rest of the world likes cars for the most part and China will be if it already isn't the largest market segment. America has become for the most part a county of pickup and imported econobox owners through no fault of their own.


Well said.


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Re: Volkswagen Group Tops List for Sales 2017 [Re: madRiver] #4651413
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Originally Posted By: madRiver
However VW never has nor never will get the US market.


The sales of the Atlas appear to be taking off-

http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales-data/volkswagen/volkswagen-atlas/

Re: Volkswagen Group Tops List for Sales 2017 [Re: Quattro Pete] #4651419
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: madRiver
However VW never has nor never will get the US market.
Never say never.

Exactly, the big 3 got a big wake up call when they cut corners and made let quality slide especially in the 80's and Honda, Nissan, Toyota started getting more and more market share. It was about the mid 90's before they finally woke up and started building better quality products. "Never say never" is good advice to heed. The rabbit never thought the hare could win the race either.


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Re: Volkswagen Group Tops List for Sales 2017 [Re: KrisZ] #4651498
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Originally Posted By: KrisZ
All these poor VW buying souls, if only they had sampled from the fountain of reliability aka Toyota. One can only hope they will see the light one day. LOL



Says the guy with a Dodge and Mazda in his signature.


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Re: Volkswagen Group Tops List for Sales 2017 [Re: CKN] #4651501
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Originally Posted By: CKN
Originally Posted By: madRiver
However VW never has nor never will get the US market.


The sales of the Atlas appear to be taking off-

http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales-data/volkswagen/volkswagen-atlas/
27 of them sold? grin2

Iíve never seen one on the road before, the dealer by my house has about 20 of them outfront by the street


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Re: Volkswagen Group Tops List for Sales 2017 [Re: Tech819] #4651503
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Originally Posted By: Tech819
Originally Posted By: KrisZ
All these poor VW buying souls, if only they had sampled from the fountain of reliability aka Toyota. One can only hope they will see the light one day. LOL



Says the guy with a Dodge and Mazda in his signature.


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