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#4651115 - 01/30/18 12:33 PM Pennzoil Platinum - Black crud in new oil
ApexHunter Offline


Registered: 10/19/07
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1st off, long time lurker and I think this might be my first post. Thanks BITOG for all the good info over the years.

So-

Bought my first new vehicle ever, a 2018 Wrangler JK. After 2 OCIs with PYB, finally switching to syn @ 5k miles. Decided to give PP a try, and did an oil change this past weekend. After filling the crankcase, looked in the bottle and noticed a bunch of black residue at the bottom of the jug. Cut the jug open hoping it was just a blemish in the plastic, but it turned out to be loose material. I made a little video too.

I found some threads about the additive package falling out of suspension, but this looks pretty different. Can anyone shed some light? VIDEO!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZjUb84fmHY&t=148s

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#4651129 - 01/30/18 12:43 PM Re: Pennzoil Platinum - Black crud in new oil [Re: ApexHunter]
demarpaint Offline


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Perfectly normal, it's a bit of additive fall out. Try shaking and pouring the oil next time, either way nothing to worry about. I've seen that in every brand of oil I've tried over the years. Pennzoil's yellowed colored bottles seem to make it stand out a bit more than some other brands using darker or black bottles.
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#4651131 - 01/30/18 12:45 PM Re: Pennzoil Platinum - Black crud in new oil [Re: ApexHunter]
Pajero Offline


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Welcome to BITOG! Where did you buy the oil? I've seen several people post the additive falling out of suspension in Pennzoil. It's a great oil. Not necessarily bad, just shake the bottle. Part No. 90915-10003Pennzoil sheared in my gen 2 Montero, may want to get a UOA. Depends on your driving. I do some heavy 4x4 at times @ high elevations. In addition to being 23 years old.

Thanks for posting ApexHunter.





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#4651133 - 01/30/18 12:45 PM Re: Pennzoil Platinum - Black crud in new oil [Re: ApexHunter]
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This is why I tell people to go with Mobil or Valvoline
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#4651143 - 01/30/18 12:55 PM Re: Pennzoil Platinum - Black crud in new oil [Re: ApexHunter]
crazy_raccoon Offline


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Shake the bottle. It's been talked about for years with Pennzoil Platinum.
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#4651149 - 01/30/18 01:04 PM Re: Pennzoil Platinum - Black crud in new oil [Re: crazy_raccoon]
GravelRoad Offline


Registered: 05/30/15
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Normal. Coworker and myself both use PP or PUP, see it in every 5qt jug.

We'll dump about 4qts into engine the shake the bleep out of it, then pour the rest.
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#4651150 - 01/30/18 01:09 PM Re: Pennzoil Platinum - Black crud in new oil [Re: ApexHunter]
PimTac Offline


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Yep those yellow jugs will show any residue pretty clearly. If you did the same test with another other brand you would come up with similar results.
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#4651153 - 01/30/18 01:15 PM Re: Pennzoil Platinum - Black crud in new oil [Re: ApexHunter]
mightymousetech Offline


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Same as any other oil, just you can see it in a yellow jug.
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#4651169 - 01/30/18 01:39 PM Re: Pennzoil Platinum - Black crud in new oil [Re: FermeLaPorte]
demarpaint Offline


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Originally Posted By: FermeLaPorte
This is why I tell people to go with Mobil or Valvoline


I've seen it in their bottles too, and I'm not alone.
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#4651175 - 01/30/18 01:42 PM Re: Pennzoil Platinum - Black crud in new oil [Re: ApexHunter]
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Is it likely that these solids will go back into suspension once the oil heats up a bit in the vehicle?
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#4651199 - 01/30/18 02:10 PM Re: Pennzoil Platinum - Black crud in new oil [Re: ApexHunter]
Reddy45 Offline


Registered: 08/15/08
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I'm an oil fallout expert and this is perfectly normal.

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#4651214 - 01/30/18 02:22 PM Re: Pennzoil Platinum - Black crud in new oil [Re: ApexHunter]
MONKEYMAN Offline


Registered: 06/24/04
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I prefer my Pennzoil Plantinum shaken, not stirred. smile

I never notice. Have gallons in the garage and guess I will start the shaking thing.
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#4651237 - 01/30/18 02:45 PM Re: Pennzoil Platinum - Black crud in new oil [Re: ApexHunter]
ChrisD46 Offline


Registered: 09/10/10
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Loc: GA.
Geez - then no telling what's in the bottom of Castrol Edge (black color jug) !! ... All kidding aside , no matter the oil brand , I give a new jug just before an oil change a good shake for several minutes to blend everything and get anything on the jug bottom back into suspension .
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#4651564 - 01/30/18 08:38 PM Re: Pennzoil Platinum - Black crud in new oil [Re: Pajero]
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Registered: 10/19/07
Posts: 7
Loc: San Diego
Really appreciate all the responses here. Since the fallout was so dark in color, I assumed for sure it had to be bad stuff. Some of the images I found online showed the additive as being lighter in color.

Being new to the yellow bottle, it makes sense that I just never noticed it in all the other oils I've used over the years. Amsoil SS, RT6 and GC for a long time - All dark bottles.

Originally Posted By: Pajero
Welcome to BITOG! Where did you buy the oil? I've seen several people post the additive falling out of suspension in Pennzoil. It's a great oil. Not necessarily bad, just shake the bottle. Part No. 90915-10003Pennzoil sheared in my gen 2 Montero, may want to get a UOA. Depends on your driving. I do some heavy 4x4 at times @ high elevations. In addition to being 23 years old.

Thanks for posting ApexHunter.

Respectfully,

Pajero!


Thanks for the warm welcome! I'm a big fan of the Montys. I've heard they're great off roaders.
I bought this PP from Wal-Mart.
Based off your suggestion, I'll send a sample off to Blackstone here to see how it fares. The 3.6 Pentastars run pretty dang hot, and while I take good care of my vehicles I'm not so easy on them at times.
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#4651592 - 01/30/18 09:30 PM Re: Pennzoil Platinum - Black crud in new oil [Re: demarpaint]
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This may well not be the additives here. Shannow posted a particulate count on brand new oil and it had a LOT of stuff that was greater than 20 micons big. New oil has a lot of "stuff" in it. I think it was described as dirt in that thread. Thus... The need for a good filter even with brand new "clean" oil. The particulate analysis was done with the insignia of the big construction equipment manufacturer Cat on it. It was really surprising to say the least.
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