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#4651100 - 01/30/18 12:20 PM Letís talk about oil for a Volkswagen
renegade_987 Offline


Registered: 04/07/11
Posts: 1563
Loc: Ankeny, IA
Afternoon everyone. Iíve owned my 2015 Jetta SE (1.8T) for about a year and a half. Initially, I used Mobil 1 Euro 0w40 from Walmart since it was easy to get. I realize, however, that it doesnít seem to meet all VW specs for newer vehicles (unless Iím missing something. More recently Iíve been using Motul 8100 X-Cess 5w40 at 5K OCIís. As quickly as I put miles on the car, the Motul is getting pricy. I have no problem continuing with this oil if thatís whatís best for it, as I know German cars can be picky. Ive narrowed my options to the Motul 8100, Liqui Moly High Tech, Casterol German (If I can even find it) or Mobil 1 0w40. For a newer VW, what would you all suggest? Iím open to other oil options as well! All oil changes will be run for 5K with a VW OEM filter. Thanks!
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#4651105 - 01/30/18 12:24 PM Re: Letís talk about oil for a Volkswagen [Re: renegade_987]
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Registered: 06/13/16
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Loc: MN
Walmart's 5-quart jug of Castrol Edge 0w40, or Pennzoil 0w40 there, or M1 0w40 there, all meet VW 502 which is what you need/want.

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#4651112 - 01/30/18 12:31 PM Re: Letís talk about oil for a Volkswagen [Re: renegade_987]
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Registered: 07/25/17
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Loc: Texas (south)
I would using m1 0w40. it's good stuff.
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#4651117 - 01/30/18 12:34 PM Re: Letís talk about oil for a Volkswagen [Re: oil_film_movies]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 35862
Loc: Great Lakes
Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Walmart's 5-quart jug of Castrol Edge 0w40, or Pennzoil 0w40 there, or M1 0w40 there, all meet VW 502 which is what you need/want.

+1

There is really no reason to look any further than this.
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#4651128 - 01/30/18 12:43 PM Re: Letís talk about oil for a Volkswagen [Re: renegade_987]
Boomer Offline


Registered: 09/19/08
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Why not just stop by the VW dealer and get the Castrol product that is specified? Prices are reasonable and you know it meets all the specs.
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#4651195 - 01/30/18 02:05 PM Re: Letís talk about oil for a Volkswagen [Re: renegade_987]
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Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 9398
Loc: Upper Midwest
Originally Posted By: renegade_987
Afternoon everyone. Iíve owned my 2015 Jetta SE (1.8T) for about a year and a half. Initially, I used Mobil 1 Euro 0w40 from Walmart since it was easy to get. I realize, however, that it doesnít seem to meet all VW specs for newer vehicles (unless Iím missing something. More recently Iíve been using Motul 8100 X-Cess 5w40 at 5K OCIís. As quickly as I put miles on the car, the Motul is getting pricy. I have no problem continuing with this oil if thatís whatís best for it, as I know German cars can be picky. Ive narrowed my options to the Motul 8100, Liqui Moly High Tech, Casterol German (If I can even find it) or Mobil 1 0w40. For a newer VW, what would you all suggest? Iím open to other oil options as well! All oil changes will be run for 5K with a VW OEM filter. Thanks!

What VW specification does your vehicle require that the M1 0W-40 does not have?
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#4651282 - 01/30/18 03:19 PM Re: Letís talk about oil for a Volkswagen [Re: renegade_987]
Trav Offline


Registered: 11/20/06
Posts: 18884
Loc: MA, Mittelfranken.de
That should be VW 502.00, both Mobil 1 and Castrol 0w40 meet it and are great oils, whats the problem?
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#4651317 - 01/30/18 03:41 PM Re: Letís talk about oil for a Volkswagen [Re: Boomer]
FordBroncoVWJeta Offline


Registered: 04/16/16
Posts: 768
Loc: KS
Originally Posted By: Boomer
Why not just stop by the VW dealer and get the Castrol product that is specified? Prices are reasonable and you know it meets all the specs.
Probably because its more expensive using this oil than anything else.
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#4651333 - 01/30/18 03:51 PM Re: Letís talk about oil for a Volkswagen [Re: renegade_987]
skyactiv Offline


Registered: 03/02/13
Posts: 4397
Loc: The Midwest
I could be wrong, but is the poster wanting to see VW 502,503 and 504 listed on the bottle? It's not going to happen.
You can find Castrol 0W40 in 5 quart jugs at a Walmart near you for cheap. Castrol 0W40 is a rare/real PAO synthetic if you look at the MSDS
and is produced in Europe. Not every Walmart has it, but if there are other Walmarts near you, I but one of them stocks it.

https://www.walmart.com/store/1764/des-moines-ia/search?dept=91083&dept_name=Auto+%26+Tires&query=0w40

https://msdspds.castrol.com/ussds/amersdsf.nsf/Files/729231D2ABF643B28025817E00527278/$File/11264210.pdf
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#4651347 - 01/30/18 03:59 PM Re: Letís talk about oil for a Volkswagen [Re: renegade_987]
Audios Offline


Registered: 11/19/11
Posts: 886
Loc: Lyndhurst NJ
Use whatevers on sale at walmart for that kind of interval. If it was a 10k interval, Id definitely recommend a top quality oil, but any of those you listed would work fine. Id imagine even the Super tech synthetic would be fine for 5k, but not worth the small savings.
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#4651509 - 01/30/18 07:30 PM Re: Letís talk about oil for a Volkswagen [Re: renegade_987]
Charlie2015 Offline


Registered: 04/24/15
Posts: 241
Loc: Georgia
Valvoline 5w40 MST
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#4651841 - 01/31/18 09:06 AM Re: Letís talk about oil for a Volkswagen [Re: Audios]
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Registered: 06/13/16
Posts: 2564
Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: Audios
Use whatevers on sale at walmart for that kind of interval. If it was a 10k interval, Id definitely recommend a top quality oil, but any of those you listed would work fine. Id imagine even the Super tech synthetic would be fine for 5k, but not worth the small savings.
The issue is more than "top quality oil" as you put it. Its physics, viscometrics and hydrodynamic surfing in bearing design.
That engine requires hths>=3.5, so SuperTech synthetic wouldn't uphold the VW engine warranty since SuperTech full syn 5w30 is too thin for the right spec.
Frankly, you could likely get away with using SuperTech 5w30 (HTHS=3.0) in the cold winter for 5k miles, but VW is saying it really needs HTHS>=3.5 in a VW 502 oil. Believe VW engineers here and use a proper VW 502 oil.

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#4652233 - 01/31/18 03:31 PM Re: Letís talk about oil for a Volkswagen [Re: renegade_987]
Flying_A Offline


Registered: 10/14/11
Posts: 282
Loc: San Francisco, CA
The X-cess is also the only 100% synthetic oil out of the recommendations being made hence the price difference.


Edited by Flying_A (01/31/18 03:32 PM)

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#4652264 - 01/31/18 03:50 PM Re: Letís talk about oil for a Volkswagen [Re: Flying_A]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 35862
Loc: Great Lakes
Originally Posted By: Flying_A
The X-cess is also the only 100% synthetic oil

With a pour point of only -36C, I seriously doubt it.
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#4652277 - 01/31/18 03:59 PM Re: Letís talk about oil for a Volkswagen [Re: Quattro Pete]
Flying_A Offline


Registered: 10/14/11
Posts: 282
Loc: San Francisco, CA
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: Flying_A
The X-cess is also the only 100% synthetic oil

With a pour point of only -36C, I seriously doubt it.


You do realize that the pour point is an arbitrary number that has almost nothing to do with the base oils used right?

Anyone can pour a ton of viscosity improver and get a great pour point. The pour point doesn't reflect the base oil quality alone since it is skewed by the ad pack chosen etc. The pour point used is of the finished product- not the base oil alone. So in fact it can very be a 100% oil and not have the pout point characteristics of a lesser quality base oil product that relies more heavily on additives to get impressive figures on a piece of paper.


Edited by Flying_A (01/31/18 03:59 PM)

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