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Hyundai dealership maint pkg - Performax oil filte #4648955
01/28/18 12:30 PM
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After performing a diy oil change on the Santa Fe, i took the Sonata for one of its "free oil changes and tire rotation." I brought my own oil (GTX) and from where i stand, can see them pouring it in. What i didn't know is that along with Hyindai filters, they also use a brand owned by Pennzoil, Performax oil filters. It was explained that they meet OE quality and because Hyundai and Shell have an agreement to use QState oil as dealer fill, more dealerships will also get Performax filters...some branded as Pennzoil or Quaker State as well as the brand name, Performax. They used PO-37 in my Sonata. No rattle or noise. Seems to work just fine. I've seen some older threads where this filter was cut open...seems pretty decent for a 5K mile oci.

Do you have any experience with them?


'18 KIA Sportage LX AWD 2.4L: MSS 10w30
'13 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: EDGE 5w30
Re: Hyundai dealership maint pkg - Performax oil filte [Re: wemay] #4648957
01/28/18 12:34 PM
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Performax is similar to other Puro made jobber filters, like the Quaker State & Purolator Classic-5K is a good limit. I'm surprised that a Hyundai/Kia dealer wouldn't use their own filters exclusively, give the well documented issues with aftermarket ones.


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Re: Hyundai dealership maint pkg - Performax oil filte [Re: wemay] #4649001
01/28/18 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted By: wemay
...They used PO-37 in my Sonata.....

As noted a Purolator made for Performax/Pennzoil filter. Should be ok for 5k mile oci, especially so in your well maintained vehicle.

That said, viewing an older bitog c&p, while a PO-37 looked ok at 7k mile oci/fci, it's two sizes down from the H/K OEM 9688/3593A size. It's equivalent to the 6607/14612 shorty. Though now common for quick lubes and indies, filter downsizing not my favorite practice, moreso when two sizes down.

The spiel they gave you sounds like hogwash to me. IMO, main reason Performax OF used instead of silicone adbv H/K OEM filter is to save $$$$$$. Plain and simple.

Re: Hyundai dealership maint pkg - Performax oil filte [Re: wemay] #4649020
01/28/18 01:26 PM
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wemay Offline OP
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Thanks for the response.


'18 KIA Sportage LX AWD 2.4L: MSS 10w30
'13 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: EDGE 5w30
Re: Hyundai dealership maint pkg - Performax oil filte [Re: wemay] #4649032
01/28/18 01:33 PM
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I think the well documented issues with aftermarket filters is more a non-issue than anything else. I say that having owned two Hyundais in different eras. While I personally know someone who cured their "tick" with an H/K OE filter, the issue revolves around an over 10 year old TSB which basically said to use an oil filter with an ADBV and you're good. Sure, the use of Performax filters is an economics/business partner move.

I currently use a Fram Ultra XG9688 ( which evidently Fram adjusted the psi on to meet Hyundai spec ) with no issue and my bet is that if it meets Hyundai spec, there won't be an issue no matter who manufactures it. I'm sure a jobber filter that meets spec would work as well as an OE or name brand one in the "tick" or "rattle" department and for a 5K OCI. However, I might have reservations about something smaller than the 9688 if that's the case with the Performax used. Can you get two sizes smaller without it being a doughnut??

Re: Hyundai dealership maint pkg - Performax oil filte [Re: wemay] #4649065
01/28/18 01:54 PM
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There was a reason the oil change was free. grin

I shoots the only use OEM filter when I go to my dealer to pieces.


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Re: Hyundai dealership maint pkg - Performax oil filte [Re: wemay] #4649130
01/28/18 02:45 PM
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Curious why you provided your own oil for a free oil change?


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Re: Hyundai dealership maint pkg - Performax oil filte [Re: wemay] #4649159
01/28/18 03:16 PM
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wemay Offline OP
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Wanted to use GTX. Really no reason other than that.


'18 KIA Sportage LX AWD 2.4L: MSS 10w30
'13 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: EDGE 5w30
Re: Hyundai dealership maint pkg - Performax oil filte [Re: wemay] #4649165
01/28/18 03:24 PM
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'18 KIA Sportage LX AWD 2.4L: MSS 10w30
'13 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: EDGE 5w30
Re: Hyundai dealership maint pkg - Performax oil filte [Re: wemay] #4649179
01/28/18 03:42 PM
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I went to the same site before I posted previously. The PO-37 is the filter PZ specs for your vehicle. Meaning they will back it (or should) with their filter warranty. However, it is a downsized filter (through consolidation) from the OEM spec size.

Edit. They also list the PO-37 for Nissan Altimas, which actually do OEM spec the 6607 shorty size for 2.5L.

Last edited by Sayjac; 01/28/18 03:51 PM. Reason: added comment
Re: Hyundai dealership maint pkg - Performax oil filte [Re: wemay] #4649225
01/28/18 04:16 PM
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wemay Offline OP
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Thanks Sayjac. I PM'd GenaFishbeck before going to the PZ site too. The site info puts it rest for me. I have no issue running this filter...





'18 KIA Sportage LX AWD 2.4L: MSS 10w30
'13 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: EDGE 5w30
Re: Hyundai dealership maint pkg - Performax oil filte [Re: wemay] #4649276
01/28/18 05:08 PM
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If I go to a dealer for an oil change (free or not), I would expect an OEM filter.

Sounds like they are cheaping out. Is this something you paid for or was it free for buying the vehicle?

Also not understanding why you bring your own oil for a free oil change?

As said, this is an undersized filter compared to OEM, as well as, IMO, A sub-par filter.

I had a torn PZ-37 filter and there was another one here as well.
The filter above does not look like a Puro made filter to me, looks like one of the made in China filters.


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2002 Ford F150: GTX HM 5w-20/EcoGard Syn/1yr OCI
2012 Scion xB: QSUD 0w-20/CQ Blue/5k OCI

Re: Hyundai dealership maint pkg - Performax oil filte [Re: wemay] #4649399
01/28/18 07:15 PM
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WOW! Stealership should use OEM. What does your owners manual say? I would call Hyundai and inquire. Made in China price value filters. God bless America! Heck, Denso is now made in China.






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Pajero!


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Re: Hyundai dealership maint pkg - Performax oil filte [Re: wemay] #4649416
01/28/18 07:29 PM
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wemay
Being curious, what price are they selling the OE filters at? I can buy the OE filters cheaper at our local KIA dealer. AutoNation Hyundai thinks they are made of gold.

Last edited by MParr; 01/28/18 07:31 PM.

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Re: Hyundai dealership maint pkg - Performax oil filte [Re: MParr] #4649427
01/28/18 07:45 PM
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wemay Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: MParr
wemay
Being curious, what price are they selling the OE filters at? I can buy the OE filters cheaper at our local KIA dealer. AutoNation Hyundai thinks they are made of gold.


This dealership charges $8/oem filter. But i really have no issue with this Pennzoil filter either.


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'13 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: EDGE 5w30
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