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Neglected coolant and oil changes #4648859
01/28/18 10:05 AM
01/28/18 10:05 AM
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Balearic Islands , Spain
FordCapriDriver Offline OP
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Just bought a beautiful red 1988 Ford Escort MkIV Xr3i 1.6 Cabriolet to use as daily.
Single owner car owned by an older lady, with 100k miles.
The oil was changed last September, but evidently before that it had not had a change for quite some time.
It also looks like it's been run on plain water!
They also used a 20W-50 Mineral Motul oil, when the Ford CVH specs 5W/10W/15W-40 oils.

It runs well, surprisingly well for an old school Mechanical injection Bosch K-jet engined car.

I want reccomendations on what you would do regarding the engine oil and coolant

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IMG_20180128_162512 by Balearic Classics, en Flickr

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IMG_20180128_162402 by Balearic Classics, en Flickr


1975 Ford Capri II Ghia 3000 V6, - Shell Helix HX3 20W-50 w/ 20% Rimula R4X 15W-40 HDEO.

1988 Ford Escort Mk4 Xr3i Cabrio, - Shell Rimula R4X 15W-40, w/ 30% Helix 3 20W-50.

Finnish expat in Spain.
Re: Neglected coolant and oil changes [Re: FordCapriDriver] #4648886
01/28/18 10:31 AM
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Change the coolant and the engine oil at least every month until the sludge seems to be dissolving.


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Re: Neglected coolant and oil changes [Re: FordCapriDriver] #4648893
01/28/18 10:36 AM
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Citric acid flush and fill with good antifreeze and distilled.

Change the oil and drive on. Nothing really to stress about there.


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Re: Neglected coolant and oil changes [Re: FordCapriDriver] #4648894
01/28/18 10:37 AM
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Also, where are the important pics? Is it beautiful or not? wink


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Re: Neglected coolant and oil changes [Re: FordCapriDriver] #4648896
01/28/18 10:42 AM
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Use a good coolant flush additive and a global antifreeze.

Do a motor flush and then run a good High Detergent motor oil at 5,000 mile or so changes.


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Re: Neglected coolant and oil changes [Re: FordCapriDriver] #4648898
01/28/18 10:42 AM
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Eh. It's not bad


2007.5 dodge cummins 6.7 liter. Chevron Delo400 15w40. 7000 mile or 250-300hr intervals.

Re: Neglected coolant and oil changes [Re: FordCapriDriver] #4648913
01/28/18 10:54 AM
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I wouldn’t use a flush. If you are concerned about the sludge, run a couple of short oci with a good conventional oil that will help clean it up a bit. I’m not sure what brands are available in your region but anything would work. After that go with your favorite brand.


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Re: Neglected coolant and oil changes [Re: FordCapriDriver] #4648925
01/28/18 11:05 AM
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I was thinking of buying some cheap parts store brand 15W-40 for now and change it within a month or so and then put in a 15W-40 HDEO in it as it burn some oil and the cam cover gasket leaks a bit.


1975 Ford Capri II Ghia 3000 V6, - Shell Helix HX3 20W-50 w/ 20% Rimula R4X 15W-40 HDEO.

1988 Ford Escort Mk4 Xr3i Cabrio, - Shell Rimula R4X 15W-40, w/ 30% Helix 3 20W-50.

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Re: Neglected coolant and oil changes [Re: PimTac] #4648934
01/28/18 11:12 AM
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+1 on NOT dislodging the old lady's sludge with a severe chemical.
Do the cam cover first and clean what you can physically. Then run the engine to warm up then do its first oil and filter change to rid the crankcase of bits which'll fall down the return passages.

With a car as old as that you SHOULD remove the stat and do an old fashioned cooling system flush THEN replace the aged stat with a top quality (OEM) new one.

How 'bout this? Do a compression check.

Re: Neglected coolant and oil changes [Re: FordCapriDriver] #4648944
01/28/18 11:22 AM
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The compression test can wait for now, i'm going back to work in a few days and despite the not great state of the oil and coolant it runs just fine and i'll be driving it daily to work, other than when it's cold it idles a bit low and runs a little rough, but that is not a surprise from an old Bosch K-Jet injected engine.
Since it's a car that was owned by a retired lady my guess is it was used infrequently and short tripped when it was driven, so some frequent highway driving should benefit it.
I'll probably flush the radiator next week first with regular water until it comes out clean and then fill it with some 30% green glycol coolant.


1975 Ford Capri II Ghia 3000 V6, - Shell Helix HX3 20W-50 w/ 20% Rimula R4X 15W-40 HDEO.

1988 Ford Escort Mk4 Xr3i Cabrio, - Shell Rimula R4X 15W-40, w/ 30% Helix 3 20W-50.

Finnish expat in Spain.
Re: Neglected coolant and oil changes [Re: FordCapriDriver] #4648951
01/28/18 11:28 AM
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Here it is btw : Cars and Coffee 21-01-2018 by Balearic Classics, en Flickr


1975 Ford Capri II Ghia 3000 V6, - Shell Helix HX3 20W-50 w/ 20% Rimula R4X 15W-40 HDEO.

1988 Ford Escort Mk4 Xr3i Cabrio, - Shell Rimula R4X 15W-40, w/ 30% Helix 3 20W-50.

Finnish expat in Spain.
Re: Neglected coolant and oil changes [Re: FordCapriDriver] #4648963
01/28/18 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted By: FordCapriDriver
Here it is btw : Cars and Coffee 21-01-2018 by Balearic Classics, en Flickr


Did she add the lights or did you?

The oil fill hole doesn't look bad considering the car's PO and history. A 15w40 diet should be all the car needs.

The coolant on the other hand, I would do a citrus flush and add a long life coolant of your choice.


03 Jeep WJ 4.0 202k Castrol Edge 10w40 HM Fram XG16
02 Volvo S60 2.4T 186k M1 0w40 Mahle OX149D
97 Chevy Blazer 4.3 153k Synpower 5w30 Supertech ST3980 (Ecore)

Re: Neglected coolant and oil changes [Re: FordCapriDriver] #4648965
01/28/18 11:39 AM
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Aww yeah! Great looking car!

Don't over think the oil. I don't think you'll see much sludge at all with the cam cover off. It's just old. Just change it normally.


"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."
Re: Neglected coolant and oil changes [Re: dlundblad] #4648999
01/28/18 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Originally Posted By: FordCapriDriver
Here it is btw : Cars and Coffee 21-01-2018 by Balearic Classics, en Flickr


Did she add the lights or did you?

The oil fill hole doesn't look bad considering the car's PO and history. A 15w40 diet should be all the car needs.

The coolant on the other hand, I would do a citrus flush and add a long life coolant of your choice.


Afaik they are original fitment, or maybe fitted by the dealer when it was new, in Europe during the 70s and 80s it was common for Ford ddealers to install all sorts of accessories to new cars from Foglights to dixie horns.


1975 Ford Capri II Ghia 3000 V6, - Shell Helix HX3 20W-50 w/ 20% Rimula R4X 15W-40 HDEO.

1988 Ford Escort Mk4 Xr3i Cabrio, - Shell Rimula R4X 15W-40, w/ 30% Helix 3 20W-50.

Finnish expat in Spain.
Re: Neglected coolant and oil changes [Re: FordCapriDriver] #4649017
01/28/18 12:18 PM
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As said:
Citric coolant flush
Change the cam cover seal and clean there
Warm up, drain oil and remove oil pan to inspect oil pickup screen and clean pan

88 models will do with 50 oils. 40 after 89

Last edited by Superflan; 01/28/18 12:23 PM.

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