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Trailer lug nuts not threading on by hand? #4648220
01/27/18 05:48 PM
01/27/18 05:48 PM
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They weren't crossed threaded, at first I thought it was cause the studs were painted. Is it just a case of poor Chinese machining? I've always been able to thread lug nuts down by hand easily. I had to use the lever of the socket in my hand to get them to spin on.


2007.5 dodge cummins 6.7 liter. Chevron Delo400 15w40. 7000 mile or 250-300hr intervals.

Re: Trailer lug nuts not threading on by hand? [Re: motor_oil_madman] #4648253
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You thought it was because the lugs were painted? Wasn't it?
Are the lugs clean now? Wire brush the paint off and see if it gets easier.

Re: Trailer lug nuts not threading on by hand? [Re: motor_oil_madman] #4648300
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No they're still pretty tight.


2007.5 dodge cummins 6.7 liter. Chevron Delo400 15w40. 7000 mile or 250-300hr intervals.

Re: Trailer lug nuts not threading on by hand? [Re: motor_oil_madman] #4648301
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They still torqued down good and everything, so it's whatever. I'm just curious how common this is.


2007.5 dodge cummins 6.7 liter. Chevron Delo400 15w40. 7000 mile or 250-300hr intervals.

Re: Trailer lug nuts not threading on by hand? [Re: motor_oil_madman] #4648307
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You may have caught a burr somewhere. Only a good inspection of the components will give you the answer.

Re: Trailer lug nuts not threading on by hand? [Re: motor_oil_madman] #4648313
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Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
I'm just curious how common this is.


It is NOT common.

Something is machined wrong, either studs or nuts.
Find out which it is and have them replaced.


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Re: Trailer lug nuts not threading on by hand? [Re: motor_oil_madman] #4648464
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They were over torqued at one time.


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Re: Trailer lug nuts not threading on by hand? [Re: Chris142] #4648473
01/27/18 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted By: Chris142
They were over torqued at one time.


Yup this. The metal deformed at some point so now the thread pitch is not what it should be.

Re: Trailer lug nuts not threading on by hand? [Re: motor_oil_madman] #4648574
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Great. So I have 24 studs that need to be pulled out and replaced?


2007.5 dodge cummins 6.7 liter. Chevron Delo400 15w40. 7000 mile or 250-300hr intervals.

Re: Trailer lug nuts not threading on by hand? [Re: motor_oil_madman] #4648582
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are you using new lugnuts or the ones that were on it (used)


maybe just try a new nut, try threading it on the studs by hand, and if doesn't thread on then the studs are stretched.


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Re: Trailer lug nuts not threading on by hand? [Re: Chris142] #4648677
01/28/18 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted By: Chris142
They were over torqued at one time.


There ya go! Some meat stick with a bigass air gun hammered em one once upon a time and stretched the threads. I start all mine by fingers then snug em with setting 1 on my Aircat. Then finish that last half turn or so by hand. No more deformed threads. Just grab new ones anywhrere They pound on from the back usually.

Re: Trailer lug nuts not threading on by hand? [Re: motor_oil_madman] #4648685
01/28/18 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
They weren't crossed threaded, at first I thought it was cause the studs were painted. Is it just a case of poor Chinese machining? I've always been able to thread lug nuts down by hand easily. I had to use the lever of the socket in my hand to get them to spin on.


I assume this was your first time doing this with these lug nuts? If so, it doesn't surprise me. When I purchased snowy's for my wife's 2017 Impala last November, I found the same thing when I installed the new lug nuts that came with them as a package.
Some would spin on OK but most caused me some greive of some sort.

I wrote it off as likely being cheap, mass produced, low on quality control, Chinese junk. They were also smaller (OD) than the stockers but they did go on nonetheless.
I originally torqued them to 110 foot Lbs then rechecked after about 50-100 kms and noticed some had backed off slightly, to which I retorqued them to 115 foot Lbs.
I just checked them again last week-end and all were still good. My fear is, once spring comes and I go to remove them, the chrome on them will spin/break on me and of course I'll be in a pickle like I have experienced before.

We'll see how that goes and that will determine if I use them again next winter?

Edit: Meant to add, the studs on this car were in great shape, as they should be with only 20,000 kms on the car. No visible rust/corrosion on them that I seen.






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Re: Trailer lug nuts not threading on by hand? [Re: motor_oil_madman] #4648726
01/28/18 08:17 AM
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Yep. Trailer is only 6 months old. First time off.


2007.5 dodge cummins 6.7 liter. Chevron Delo400 15w40. 7000 mile or 250-300hr intervals.

Re: Trailer lug nuts not threading on by hand? [Re: motor_oil_madman] #4649098
01/28/18 01:13 PM
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Would a die move the threads back into their proper pitch ? MOM I feel your pain, It took me a weekend to remove a wheel whose studs had been over torqued. 3 studs were spinning on the the hub.


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Re: Trailer lug nuts not threading on by hand? [Re: motor_oil_madman] #4649716
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Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
Yep. Trailer is only 6 months old. First time off.



can you get a close up picture of what the studs look like?



any kind of dirt build up or anything?


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