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best engine? #4646765
01/26/18 09:19 AM
01/26/18 09:19 AM
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warm and sunny ND
jacobsond Offline OP
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warm and sunny ND
My 1994 S10 is nearing the end of its life. Rust is starting to attack the frame so it may be time soon to look for another vehicle. Ill probably look for a pickup of some sort. Maybe full size one. Now my price range is going to be less than 10,000 I will likely end up with one with more than a few miles. Is there any engines I should stay away from? I'm not brand loyal. The 2.2 in the S10 was IMHO a very good engine. Not tons of power gas mileage was somewhat disappointing but still a good solid engine. I just need a daily. Ive Been driving a 2wd here in ND with little issues so a big 4WD with a big powerful engine is not really needed for me. Just something with a nice simple reliable engine is what I want.

Re: best engine? [Re: jacobsond] #4646779
01/26/18 09:30 AM
01/26/18 09:30 AM
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Cincinnati, OH, USA
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Hard to beat GM pickups, maybe another S10/S15/Sonoma with a 2.2 or even a 4.3, or possibly a C1500 with a 4.3? My old job (20-25 years ago) ran S10s into the ground, they had 2.8 & 4.3 examples that cleared 300K!

Last edited by bullwinkle; 01/26/18 09:30 AM.

06 Ram 3500 CTD 4X4(FG Venturi), 93 GMC C3500 6.2, 89 F-450 7.3, 98 XJ 4.0(XG8A), 05 xB(XG3600), 18 Transit 3.7, 03 Merc Grand Marquis 4.6 2V(XG2)
Re: best engine? [Re: jacobsond] #4646786
01/26/18 09:34 AM
01/26/18 09:34 AM
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Storrs, Connecticut
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Tacoma if you want something reliable, or maybe a late model 2010-2011 Ford Ranger 4.0 V6.


2000 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L (181k) - Pennzoil 10w30, Napa Gold 1516, Magnefine trans filter
2009 BMW 328i (35k) - Castrol Edge Euro 0w40, MANN HU816X
Re: best engine? [Re: jacobsond] #4646787
01/26/18 09:34 AM
01/26/18 09:34 AM
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NC
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NC
I don't know what the "best" is, but I'll throw in a vote for a 2wd Toyota Tacoma or even an older "Pickup" (literally the name of the vehicle). The 2.4l 22re in the older trucks is pretty much bullet-proof as is the 3.4l (I think) V6 in 1st generation Tacomas. 4x4 Toyotas are expensive to say the least. If you're looking for a 2wd, you might find a rust-free jewel for a good price.

Someone else might chime in but I can't think of any small trucks in the last 20 years that had "bad" engines. I personally would avoid an auto trans in a domestic but other than that, I'm not brand loyal either.


'16 Frontier SV 4x4-PP/Nissan OEM
'08 CR-V EX AWD-Valvoline Syn MaxLife/Fram TG
'01 Civic EX-Valvoline Syn MaxLife/Fram UG
'00 Civic LX-PYB/Fram UG
Re: best engine? [Re: jacobsond] #4646788
01/26/18 09:34 AM
01/26/18 09:34 AM
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Boston, MA
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both the 2.2 and 4.3s are probably two of the best engines in terms of durability and ease of maintenance. Solid workhorse vehicle.


2017 Chevy Traverse - 28k - Delco Dexos 1 and PF63
2014 Chevy Equinox - 22k - Delco Dexos 1 and PF457G
2015 GMC Terrain - 22k- Delco Dexos 1 and PF457G
Re: best engine? [Re: jacobsond] #4646789
01/26/18 09:35 AM
01/26/18 09:35 AM
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SE British Columbia, Canada
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This is going to be a GM ,RAM, Ford shooting match. If you already had a S-10, consider the Ford Ranger, Chev Colorado, or Dodge Dakota. If you’re in North Dakota I would opt for 4 wheel drive. You’ll never regret it. Two wheel drive trucks are too light in the back end. My two bits. I’d go for 2000 or newer. They were getting their horsepower back around then. I like the Ford Ranger with the V-6.

SF


If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: best engine? [Re: jacobsond] #4646822
01/26/18 10:07 AM
01/26/18 10:07 AM
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Ontario, Canada
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Ontario, Canada
A 2wd Ranger/B2000 with the 2.3 Duratec and a manual should be a good KISS drivetrain, no timing belts, VVT, etc. I don't know of any real trouble spots with the duratec.
I agree with not getting even a V6 Ranger if your not towing something significant, it does nothing for you but burn gas.


07 Focus ZXW, 5spd manual, 218km M1 5W30
18 Outback 2.5 CVT 15km 0W20
Re: best engine? [Re: jacobsond] #4646827
01/26/18 10:12 AM
01/26/18 10:12 AM
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Marshfield , MA
andyd Online content
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The early OHC 4.0 had timing chain issues Later models were better. IMO the OHV 4.0 was a better engine, Trouble is the OHV 4.0 will run like a watch while the rest of the truck rusts away. I wish I could find a rust free example of the Rat. I don't care if it has been to the moon and back. I gots me a fine drive train to put in it.


'16 Camry LE STP synth 0w20 and STP filter. the Fridge

1994 Ranger ,the Rat, 5w30 dino, STP filter

'16 Camry SE, Valvoline HM 0w20 and OEM filter
Thick oil is better grin2
Re: best engine? [Re: jacobsond] #4646832
01/26/18 10:16 AM
01/26/18 10:16 AM
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WI
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WI
A 4.0 Jeep Commanche would be dirt simple and pretty cool, but the newest would be a 92 and most are either beat up or turned into a buggy.


15 Jeep KL Limited V6: Formula Shell 5W20
07 LR3 SE V8: Maxlife 5W30
05 Jeep KJ Limited: PHM 5W30
96 Jeep XJ Country: STP HM 5W30 (winter)
Re: best engine? [Re: andyd] #4646835
01/26/18 10:18 AM
01/26/18 10:18 AM
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Storrs, Connecticut
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Storrs, Connecticut
Originally Posted By: andyd
The early OHC 4.0 had timing chain issues Later models were better. IMO the OHV 4.0 was a better engine, Trouble is the OHV 4.0 will run like a watch while the rest of the truck rusts away. I wish I could find a rust free example of the Rat. I don't care if it has been to the moon and back. I gots me a fine drive train to put in it.


I think the issues are blown up more than they actually happen. My friend had a 2001 Ranger Edge 4x4 with the 4.0 SOHC, supposedly one of the trouble years, and it ran flawlessly until he sold it at almost 190k. The engine was extremely quiet.


2000 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L (181k) - Pennzoil 10w30, Napa Gold 1516, Magnefine trans filter
2009 BMW 328i (35k) - Castrol Edge Euro 0w40, MANN HU816X
Re: best engine? [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4646838
01/26/18 10:21 AM
01/26/18 10:21 AM
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Storrs, Connecticut
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Originally Posted By: HoosierJeeper
A 4.0 Jeep Commanche would be dirt simple and pretty cool, but the newest would be a 92 and most are either beat up or turned into a buggy.


I couldn't find one when I started driving 12 years ago, I doubt there are many left. The ones I do see are extremely expensive and still really beat up.

I kind of regret not buying a 1990 I saw a few years ago, but I was in college and a second older Jeep on a college student budget would've been a bad idea. It was a red 4x4 short bed 4.0L auto with 120k and zero rust.


2000 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L (181k) - Pennzoil 10w30, Napa Gold 1516, Magnefine trans filter
2009 BMW 328i (35k) - Castrol Edge Euro 0w40, MANN HU816X
Re: best engine? [Re: jacobsond] #4646865
01/26/18 10:47 AM
01/26/18 10:47 AM
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Indiana
Indydriver Offline
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Indiana
Well, the title is “best engine” so, the obvious answer is:


LS3


2014 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 Vert 14,000 M1
2012 Sienna 79,000 M1
2007 Tahoe 140,000 PP

Re: best engine? [Re: jacobsond] #4646872
01/26/18 10:50 AM
01/26/18 10:50 AM
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Phoenix, AZ
Nick1994 Offline
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What about flying down to the southern states for a rust free truck and make a short road trip out of it? Then you can keep up on rust proofing and it'll last a lot longer?


2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L 88k Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5w30 & OEM
2000 Toyota Camry 2.2L 231k Valvoline 5w30 & Fram Ultra
1996 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L 147k Mobil 1 HM 10w40 & Fram Ultra
Re: best engine? [Re: Nick1994] #4646880
01/26/18 10:57 AM
01/26/18 10:57 AM
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Texas
wag123 Offline
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Texas
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
What about flying down to the southern states for a rust free truck and make a short road trip out of it? Then you can keep up on rust proofing and it'll last a lot longer?

+1
Just look for a newer rust-free example of your current truck in Texas, Arizona, or California. You should be able to find one for a LOT less money than your $10k budget.

Last edited by wag123; 01/26/18 10:59 AM.
Re: best engine? [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4646931
01/26/18 12:02 PM
01/26/18 12:02 PM
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PV Az
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PV Az
Originally Posted By: HoosierJeeper
A 4.0 Jeep Commanche would be dirt simple and pretty cool, but the newest would be a 92 and most are either beat up or turned into a buggy.


Just saw one the other day. Decent shape and fairly unmolested.

No rust in the SW but be aware if buying 10+ year old trucks the sun is hard on paint and interiors.


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14 RAV4 2.5 5W-20 PP
16 Silverado 1500 4.3, DI, AFM 5W-30 PP

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