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#4646352 - 01/25/18 08:24 PM Led headlights...
gregk24 Offline


Registered: 04/13/13
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I have seen so many of these "burnt out" on new cars. Whats the deal? I thought these were supposed to last a lot longer then halogen. I do like how they look, they certainly dress up a vehicle if the manufacture designs them right, but I can only imagine how expensive that can be since the whole headlight has to be replaced when they go bad. Just a thought.
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#4646358 - 01/25/18 08:27 PM Re: Led headlights... [Re: gregk24]
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My first guess is cheap Chinese leds.
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#4646360 - 01/25/18 08:29 PM Re: Led headlights... [Re: gregk24]
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Maybe it's me, but I usually see many burnt ones on german cars, maybe a coincidence? Noticed similar for halogens too.
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#4646371 - 01/25/18 08:43 PM Re: Led headlights... [Re: gregk24]
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I hate em. They blind me.
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#4646378 - 01/25/18 08:53 PM Re: Led headlights... [Re: gregk24]
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Your right there's alot of newish cars on the road with burnt out headlights. The ones I noticed aren't LED's though.

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#4646381 - 01/25/18 08:58 PM Re: Led headlights... [Re: gregk24]
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Might be because people are running the headlights as Daytime Running Lights when the vehicle is not equipped with DRLs.

If DRLs are part of the OEM Body&Frame computer, they either use the turn signal lamps or they use the High Beams wired in Series (which means you are running 12V into a 24V lamp set, so it's half brightness, or less than half brightness, vs high beams and dimmer than low beams). DRLs are required to be relatively dim and the MVSS will limit the lumens they can project.

They use the High Beams because DRLs in nations that require them must aim straight ahead, which low beams aren't designed to do. Turn signal lamps can be used because Canada allows amber or white for DRLs (European, UK, Russian, Japanese etc don't. This was done as a concession to the Big3 automakers who wanted to minimize parts differences in North American vehicles).
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#4646385 - 01/25/18 09:06 PM Re: Led headlights... [Re: gregk24]
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Iíve seen lots of clowns who retrofit their halogen reflector housings with LEDs and HIDs. Those are frequently blown, but I canít recall seeing too many factory setups that are out.
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#4646405 - 01/25/18 09:24 PM Re: Led headlights... [Re: gregk24]
Cujet Offline


Registered: 02/15/03
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Loc: Jupiter, Florida
I see the LED eyebrow lights that double as daytime running lights, burned out, regularly. These are not headlights though, just mostly for show.

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#4646408 - 01/25/18 09:30 PM Re: Led headlights... [Re: Chris142]
das_peikko Offline


Registered: 01/01/18
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Loc: San Antonio, TX
Originally Posted By: Chris142
I hate em. They blind me.


You sir took the words right out of my brain. Word theft.

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#4646416 - 01/25/18 09:41 PM Re: Led headlights... [Re: gregk24]
malibuguy79 Offline


Registered: 12/11/17
Posts: 86
Loc: Maryland
Im sick and tired of people buying PNP LEDs and stickin them into halogen housings increasing glare and reducing actual output on the ground. But bro they are so bright when I stand in front of em bro...
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#4646420 - 01/25/18 09:46 PM Re: Led headlights... [Re: gregk24]
dustyroads Offline


Registered: 05/13/13
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I see many LED daytime running lights out on newer GM pickups/SUVs as well as Dodge Chargers/Chrysler 300s. I don't see so many LED headlights/tail lights out, but I do see some.

I wish every vehicle on the road had LEDs, as they are much easier on my eyes on long overnight drives, especially in the rain. Some of the aftermarket LEDs are blinding if installed poorly or improperly. My Freightliner Cascadia has LED headlights and taillights (factory installed) made by Truck-Lite and I love them. When I go home and drive my F150 at night, it's almost as if I'm driving with my sunglasses on (comparatively speaking).
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#4646422 - 01/25/18 09:49 PM Re: Led headlights... [Re: gregk24]
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Remember the DRLs turn off on one side when turn signals on that side are turned on...at least on the GMs and Chryslers I've owned.
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#4646424 - 01/25/18 09:51 PM Re: Led headlights... [Re: gregk24]
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Registered: 02/19/13
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Loc: Phoenix, AZ
They burn out because people buy cheap ones off eBay.

My Sonata came with some and I hated the white light, so I put in Halogens (did the 9006->9011 bulb mod) and it's unbelievable how much brighter they are. Nice yellow color is easy to see, nice cutoff on the pattern, and more powerful.
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#4646431 - 01/25/18 09:57 PM Re: Led headlights... [Re: gregk24]
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Correction: I am talking about stock OEM daytime running lights, not aftermarket.
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#4646433 - 01/25/18 09:58 PM Re: Led headlights... [Re: dishdude]
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Originally Posted By: dishdude
Remember the DRLs turn off on one side when turn signals on that side are turned on...at least on the GMs and Chryslers I've owned.


Yup that's right, but I see many cruising the interstate with one of the DRLs out. No turn signal on. Whether they're a DRL or just a dress-up light, many are going out.
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