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Fram Ultra no longer 99% @ 20 microns? #4646305
01/25/18 08:21 PM
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Not sure if this has already been discussed, but the Fram site no longer lists the Ultra as capable of 99% @ 20 microns. The Tough Guard (99% @ 20 microns) and Extra Guard (95% @ 20 microns) data are both still listed.

Omission on the Fram marketing team or has there been a change?


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Re: Fram Ultra no longer 99% @ 20 microns? [Re: newtoncd8] #4646311
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Temporary omission due to a mistake by web page people. Its still 99% at 20 microns, and 80% at 5 microns.

Re: Fram Ultra no longer 99% @ 20 microns? [Re: newtoncd8] #4646354
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Re: Fram Ultra no longer 99% @ 20 microns? [Re: newtoncd8] #4646364
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I hope so.

I have a small stash of them and Id be bummed to learn my new ones aren't the equivalent of the old ones, or that the old ones did not meet spec that was published prior.

It's been 5 days since zee06 contacted them and they told him it was an omission.



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Re: Fram Ultra no longer 99% @ 20 microns? [Re: newtoncd8] #4646417
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Let me make a call to "corporate" ... LOL Still shows 99+% (but no micron size) in this snap-shot but looks like the details are missing on the page for the Ultra. Sure it's just an oversight when they revamped the website.







Re: Fram Ultra no longer 99% @ 20 microns? [Re: newtoncd8] #4646525
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Is the tough guard,also rated,for 80% @ 5 um?

Re: Fram Ultra no longer 99% @ 20 microns? [Re: newtoncd8] #4646554
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Why is it a 'mistake' when Fram omits but not when others do...?


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Re: Fram Ultra no longer 99% @ 20 microns? [Re: wemay] #4646594
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Originally Posted By: wemay
Why is it a 'mistake' when Fram omits but not when others do...?


Because before Fram updated their website a week or two ago, they listed detailed ISO 4548-12 efficiency numbers for all their oil filters. They still do on the new website for the EG and TG, but not for the Ultra ... so it's an oversight screw-up by the web guys.

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Re: Fram Ultra no longer 99% @ 20 microns? [Re: newtoncd8] #4646684
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Re: Fram Ultra no longer 99% @ 20 microns? [Re: ZeeOSix] #4646691
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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: wemay
Why is it a 'mistake' when Fram omits but not when others do...?


Because before Fram updated their website a week or two ago, they listed detailed ISO 4548-12 efficiency numbers for all their oil filters. They still do on the new website for the EG and TG, but not for the Ultra ... so it's an oversight screw-up by the web guys.


That would be a logical train of thought, but just like i do with every other brand, If it isn't posted, it isn't so, and i like Fram Ultra as you can see in my sig.


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Originally Posted By: wemay
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: wemay
Why is it a 'mistake' when Fram omits but not when others do...?


Because before Fram updated their website a week or two ago, they listed detailed ISO 4548-12 efficiency numbers for all their oil filters. They still do on the new website for the EG and TG, but not for the Ultra ... so it's an oversight screw-up by the web guys.


That would be a logical train of thought, but just like i do with every other brand, If it isn't posted, it isn't so, and i like Fram Ultra as you can see in my sig.


Got to their website and hit the little "chat" pop-up in the lower RH corner and ask them why the efficiency specs are now missing on the Ultra.

Re: Fram Ultra no longer 99% @ 20 microns? [Re: newtoncd8] #4647191
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Done. It's actually a "leave a message" prompt and they'll email back a response.


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Re: Fram Ultra no longer 99% @ 20 microns? [Re: wemay] #4647321
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Originally Posted By: wemay
Why is it a 'mistake' when Fram omits but not when others do...?


I assume that is for me. When the website has it listed for years and then it is removed, you don't find that of interest? Meanwhile, the other filter offerings still have the data listed.

BTW, I got a note from Fram:

"The Ultra Synthetic oil filters are still 99%+ efficient at 20 microns, the product has not changed. It appears to be a website error that it is no longer listed. I appreciate you bringing this to our attention. I will pass this information on to our website developer so they can have this corrected as soon as possible."


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Re: Fram Ultra no longer 99% @ 20 microns? [Re: newtoncd8] #4647344
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I remember reading MotorKing post here that the 20,000 mile filter is unchanged apart from the 20,000 mile claim. They also dropped the "or 1 year" statement.


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