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#4646227 - 01/25/18 06:14 PM 06 Honda 5-speed Auto Trans & Timing belt
GemStater Offline


Registered: 10/27/14
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Just purchased a 2006 Honda Accord V6 with BAYA 5-Speed auto transmission. Car came with a stack of Honda dealer service invoices but nothing to indicate an ATF change. It appears the last two owners were waiting for the Maintenance Minder to tell them to service the Transmission. ATF fluid is purple in color but doesn't smell burnt. One Honda service invoice shows an additive added to the ATF and motor oil. Find this curious as my old 97 Civic owners manual specifies no use of oil additives.

Anyway, I've heard that apparently this transmission does not have a filter and that I should dump and fill the ATF for the next few oil changes, which I will probably do. Honestly, I'm kind of bewildered by what Hond's maintenance philosophy has become. Oh! And looks like I will be doing the timing belt, water pump, spark plugs, valve adjust for the first time as well thanks to the Maintenance Minder/procrastinator.

Any other suggestions?
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#4646237 - 01/25/18 06:21 PM Re: 06 Honda 5-speed Auto Trans & Timing belt [Re: GemStater]
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Unless there's Royal Purple ATF in there, it shouldn't usually purple. New ATF is red and becomes darker as it ages; totally spent ATF is black.

I agree with doing several drain & fills but you don't have to space them out over several OCIs. One every few hundred miles will suffice and gradually freshen up the system.

What's the mileage?


Edited by mclasser (01/25/18 06:24 PM)
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#4646247 - 01/25/18 06:30 PM Re: 06 Honda 5-speed Auto Trans & Timing belt [Re: mclasser]
GemStater Offline


Registered: 10/27/14
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Originally Posted By: mclasser
Unless there's Royal Purple ATF in there, it shouldn't usually purple. New ATF is red and becomes darker as it ages; totally spent ATF is black.

I agree with doing several drain & fills but you don't have to space them out over several OCIs. One every few hundred miles will suffice and gradually freshen up the system.

What's the mileage?


Sorry, meant to put mileage, it is 115k.

Yes, darker red ATF I guess. Purple maybe the wrong semantics perhaps. Not fresh bright red is what I was trying to convey.
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#4646252 - 01/25/18 06:36 PM Re: 06 Honda 5-speed Auto Trans & Timing belt [Re: GemStater]
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Registered: 11/20/06
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It has 2 filters but they are up inside and not serviceable without opening the unit. That being said, they rarely plug up enough to effect the units performance, I have never seen one plugged.
Amsoil ATF (not ATL) works better in these units than any other fluid I have used (I have done more than a couple), a line off exchange is the best way to do a fluid change on these and is very easy to do. Drain and fill is like pizzin in the lake.
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#4646260 - 01/25/18 06:42 PM Re: 06 Honda 5-speed Auto Trans & Timing belt [Re: Trav]
GemStater Offline


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Originally Posted By: Trav
It has 2 filters but they are up inside and not serviceable without opening the unit. That being said, they rarely plug up enough to effect the units performance, I have never seen one plugged.
Amsoil ATF (not ATL) works better in these units than any other fluid I have used (I have done more than a couple), a line off exchange is the best way to do a fluid change on these and is very easy to do. Drain and fill is like pizzin in the lake.


Thanks! Amsoil ATF was my plan of attack. Can a DIYer like myself do the off line exchange or should I take it to a pro?
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#4646270 - 01/25/18 06:55 PM Re: 06 Honda 5-speed Auto Trans & Timing belt [Re: GemStater]
Trav Offline


Registered: 11/20/06
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Loc: MA, Mittelfranken.de
This is a perfect job for the non pro DIY, you basically only need to remove the return hose at the radiator, put a piece of clear pcv hose over it (so you can see the fluid) and put the other end into a container, I use a gallon jug to make replacing the amount easier.
Have an assistant start the engine and watch the fluid until you see a few air bubbles then shut the engine off. Fill with approx the same amount of fluid you collected in the jug and repeat until the fluid coming out looks the same as whats going in.

When the fluid is nice and red shut the engine off and fill the fluid to the lower mark, start the engine and run it through the gears and lower the car/take it off the ramps. Adjust the fluid level to the cold/lower mark and drive it then check/adjust the fluid level again.

There are probably a few YouTube videos but if you need help we can help walk your through it. Do this once and next time it will be super easy.
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#4646284 - 01/25/18 07:01 PM Re: 06 Honda 5-speed Auto Trans & Timing belt [Re: Trav]
GemStater Offline


Registered: 10/27/14
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Loc: Pacific NW USA
Originally Posted By: Trav
This is a perfect job for the non pro DIY, you basically only need to remove the return hose at the radiator, put a piece of clear pcv hose over it (so you can see the fluid) and put the other end into a container, I use a gallon jug to make replacing the amount easier.
Have an assistant start the engine and watch the fluid until you see a few air bubbles then shut the engine off. Fill with approx the same amount of fluid you collected in the jug and repeat until the fluid coming out looks the same as whats going in.

When the fluid is nice and red shut the engine off and fill the fluid to the lower mark, start the engine and run it through the gears and lower the car/take it off the ramps. Adjust the fluid level to the cold/lower mark and drive it then check/adjust the fluid level again.

There are probably a few YouTube videos but if you need help we can help walk your through it. Do this once and next time it will be super easy.


Okay, this is basically what the Amsoil TSB advised.
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#4646310 - 01/25/18 07:26 PM Re: 06 Honda 5-speed Auto Trans & Timing belt [Re: GemStater]
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Posts: 2076
Loc: VA
Might be similar to this one( that's I4):
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#4646314 - 01/25/18 07:27 PM Re: 06 Honda 5-speed Auto Trans & Timing belt [Re: GemStater]
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Registered: 04/13/13
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There is an external in line filter, It is not mentioned in the owners manual but you can replace it with a new one if you so desire. I would recommend changing the transmission fluid if it an anything other than pink / light red. Also, I would use Honda ATF DW-1 for the fluid.
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#4646315 - 01/25/18 07:28 PM Re: 06 Honda 5-speed Auto Trans & Timing belt [Re: GemStater]
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Just do a drain and fill every 30,000 miles. There is no need to go overkill on maintenance. The transmission will break after X number of miles, and it probably won't be fluid related.
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#4646317 - 01/25/18 07:29 PM Re: 06 Honda 5-speed Auto Trans & Timing belt [Re: GemStater]
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Registered: 12/28/16
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Loc: VA
Not to threadjack, but Trav do you know if it's worth replacing that inline filter?

I saw a post here, stating that it's just a metal screen and definitely not worth the hassle, provided ATF has been maintained around 30K mark.

Found it :https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4314039#Post4314039
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#4646318 - 01/25/18 07:31 PM Re: 06 Honda 5-speed Auto Trans & Timing belt [Re: Charlie2015]
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Registered: 12/28/16
Posts: 2076
Loc: VA
Originally Posted By: Charlie2015
Just do a drain and fill every 30,000 miles. There is no need to go overkill on maintenance. The transmission will break after X number of miles, and it probably won't be fluid related.


I definitely agree with it or maybe do 2-3 D&F, if it's really needed.
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#4646322 - 01/25/18 07:34 PM Re: 06 Honda 5-speed Auto Trans & Timing belt [Re: Trav]
GemStater Offline


Registered: 10/27/14
Posts: 289
Loc: Pacific NW USA
Originally Posted By: Trav
This is a perfect job for the non pro DIY, you basically only need to remove the return hose at the radiator, put a piece of clear pcv hose over it (so you can see the fluid) and put the other end into a container, I use a gallon jug to make replacing the amount easier.
Have an assistant start the engine and watch the fluid until you see a few air bubbles then shut the engine off. Fill with approx the same amount of fluid you collected in the jug and repeat until the fluid coming out looks the same as whats going in.

When the fluid is nice and red shut the engine off and fill the fluid to the lower mark, start the engine and run it through the gears and lower the car/take it off the ramps. Adjust the fluid level to the cold/lower mark and drive it then check/adjust the fluid level again.

There are probably a few YouTube videos but if you need help we can help walk your through it. Do this once and next time it will be super easy.


Is there a way to identify the A/T return cooler line at the radiator?
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#4646326 - 01/25/18 07:38 PM Re: 06 Honda 5-speed Auto Trans & Timing belt [Re: maverickfhs]
GemStater Offline


Registered: 10/27/14
Posts: 289
Loc: Pacific NW USA
Originally Posted By: maverickfhs
Not to threadjack, but Trav do you know if it's worth replacing that inline filter?

I saw a post here, stating that it's just a metal screen and definitely not worth the hassle, provided ATF has been maintained around 30K mark.

Found it :https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4314039#Post4314039


Good question.

I saw the inline filter on RockAuto so was a bit confused when some say no serviceable filter. If it's not worth the hassle I won't worry about it.
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#4646328 - 01/25/18 07:41 PM Re: 06 Honda 5-speed Auto Trans & Timing belt [Re: GemStater]
GemStater Offline


Registered: 10/27/14
Posts: 289
Loc: Pacific NW USA
BTW, while we are on the topic of Honda maintenance, I've had good luck buying my genuine OEM Honda parts from Majestic Honda. Anyone else have good online Honda parts sites?
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