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Need a retro rifle? Brownells has you covered. #4644288
01/23/18 06:09 PM
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Re: Need a retro rifle? Brownells has you covered. [Re: DuckRyder] #4644300
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Retro for me would be my issued GM Hydramatic Div M-16 laugh


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Re: Need a retro rifle? Brownells has you covered. [Re: BrocLuno] #4644355
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Originally Posted By: BrocLuno
Retro for me would be my issued GM Hydramatic Div M-16 laugh


Well they might not have you quite that covered... grin


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Re: Need a retro rifle? Brownells has you covered. [Re: DuckRyder] #4644404
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Yeah, for like $1300.


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Re: Need a retro rifle? Brownells has you covered. [Re: DuckRyder] #4644406
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Way back in 1987 I qualified with the top one. Man, those buggers were worn out by then!


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Re: Need a retro rifle? Brownells has you covered. [Re: DuckRyder] #4644506
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Pretty awesome except for the price.

Re: Need a retro rifle? Brownells has you covered. [Re: john_pifer] #4644607
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Originally Posted By: john_pifer
Yeah, for like $1300.


That's to be expected for an all American made gun that needs non Mil Spec/standard parts. I have an advertisement for the first commercially available Colt AR15's and if you adjust for inflation they would cost about this much now.


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Re: Need a retro rifle? Brownells has you covered. [Re: DuckRyder] #4644617
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$1600 isn't crazy for a good ready to go AR-10, but perhaps here's the deal breaker:

Quote:
Brownells BRN-10ô rifles accept standard metal DPMS/SR-25 magazines. They are NOT compatible with Magpul PMAGs due to lower receiver contour.


I guess one could stock up on the steel/aluminum mags.

On the good news side all the 7.62x51 BCG parts will always be carried by Brownell's (and others)


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Re: Need a retro rifle? Brownells has you covered. [Re: Pablo] #4644665
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Originally Posted By: Pablo
$1600 isn't crazy for a good ready to go AR-10, but perhaps here's the deal breaker:

Quote:
Brownells BRN-10ô rifles accept standard metal DPMS/SR-25 magazines. They are NOT compatible with Magpul PMAGs due to lower receiver contour.


I guess one could stock up on the steel/aluminum mags.

On the good news side all the 7.62x51 BCG parts will always be carried by Brownell's (and others)


Well and let's face it. If you pony up good money for a retro AR10, it would look pretty weird with a Pmag hanging out the bottom. What I think is cool is the model 601 "Air Force Model" ships with a waffle mag.


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Re: Need a retro rifle? Brownells has you covered. [Re: DuckRyder] #4644740
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The days of people paying extremely high prices for AR-15s are over. As far as I could tell, thereís nothing thatís even special about these rifles. Just the retro-styling.

Colt M4s are going for less than $700 and good entry-level ARs for under $400 in some cases, NIB.

If I paid that much for an AR-15, it better have a ton of high-end performance parts.


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Re: Need a retro rifle? Brownells has you covered. [Re: DuckRyder] #4644745
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I remember when people were complaining that Ruger Mini 14's were going for, "almost as much as an AR-15". They thought that was ridiculous. Now, they're almost, if not over twice as much, and I don't hear anyone complaining. It just shows what happens when the market gets flooded with a given product.

Re: Need a retro rifle? Brownells has you covered. [Re: Robenstein] #4644752
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Originally Posted By: Robenstein

Well and let's face it. If you pony up good money for a retro AR10, it would look pretty weird with a Pmag hanging out the bottom. What I think is cool is the model 601 "Air Force Model" ships with a waffle mag.


Great point! Now that I am awake and think 'bout makes sense. For sure the 5.56 overpriced. 7.62 not crazy high. Sure I could piece together a lower cost AR-10 pattern Palmetto Armory deal, and go retro for few more dollars.....$100 more got the Dutch brown. Hmmmm....


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Re: Need a retro rifle? Brownells has you covered. [Re: john_pifer] #4645068
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Originally Posted By: john_pifer
The days of people paying extremely high prices for AR-15s are over. As far as I could tell, thereís nothing thatís even special about these rifles. Just the retro-styling.

Colt M4s are going for less than $700 and good entry-level ARs for under $400 in some cases, NIB.

If I paid that much for an AR-15, it better have a ton of high-end performance parts.


The Retro angle is what makes them special. And if you remember Colt made a small run of M16A1 rifles last year and wanted almost 2x as much for them at 2,500 bucks for them.

The same people who will buy this are the types that appreciate older things, even if they don't perform well. Those of us that would daily drive a 55 Chevy Bel Air instead of a 2016 Impala.


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Re: Need a retro rifle? Brownells has you covered. [Re: Robenstein] #4645218
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Originally Posted By: Robenstein
Originally Posted By: john_pifer
The days of people paying extremely high prices for AR-15s are over. As far as I could tell, thereís nothing thatís even special about these rifles. Just the retro-styling.

Colt M4s are going for less than $700 and good entry-level ARs for under $400 in some cases, NIB.

If I paid that much for an AR-15, it better have a ton of high-end performance parts.


The Retro angle is what makes them special. And if you remember Colt made a small run of M16A1 rifles last year and wanted almost 2x as much for them at 2,500 bucks for them.

The same people who will buy this are the types that appreciate older things, even if they don't perform well. Those of us that would daily drive a 55 Chevy Bel Air instead of a 2016 Impala.


Yeah, but theyíre not actually old.

Buying a ready-made ďretroĒ rifle appeals to me precisely zero.

Iíd be much more inclined to build a retro-style rifle myself and have the freedom to make some of my own parts choices.


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Re: Need a retro rifle? Brownells has you covered. [Re: DuckRyder] #4645311
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The light barreled AR10 is kind of appealing...

I just donít know if itís worth $1400 to shoot more expensive ammo appealing.

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