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#4643547 - 01/22/18 11:09 PM Michelin tires wore out rapidly
llmercll Offline


Registered: 09/01/13
Posts: 97
Loc: ny
I have Michelin defenders on a 2003 Volkswagon Jetta. P195/65/R15. I purchased them 28 months ago, at 178k miles. The car now has 218k miles, and the tires are well below 2/32". They have completely worn out in about 40k miles, short of the 90k warranty. I had them done at sears, and have not noticed any issues over the 2 years I've had them.

Does anyone know what could cause this? Aren't defenders some of the best tires out there? I paid [censored] near $800 for them 2 years ago!

I can get them replaced under warranty for about 55% off, but am kind of afraid to touch another Michelin tire again...

Any thoughts/advice?

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#4643554 - 01/22/18 11:16 PM Re: Michelin tires wore out rapidly [Re: llmercll]
Run Offline


Registered: 06/07/15
Posts: 717
Loc: Canada
Have you had your alignment checked recently? If tires are wearing out that fast the problem might not be the rubber itself.
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#4643559 - 01/22/18 11:19 PM Re: Michelin tires wore out rapidly [Re: Run]
llmercll Offline


Registered: 09/01/13
Posts: 97
Loc: ny
No, I have not. It was done just over 2 years ago with the new tires though, and I haven't hit anything so I'd be surprised if it went out that badly that quickly.

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#4643563 - 01/22/18 11:22 PM Re: Michelin tires wore out rapidly [Re: llmercll]
Reddy45 Offline


Registered: 08/15/08
Posts: 2973
Loc: USA
Are you saying the tread thickness is somehow guaranteed to last 90k miles? Where did you see that stated?

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#4643564 - 01/22/18 11:22 PM Re: Michelin tires wore out rapidly [Re: llmercll]
Nyquist Offline


Registered: 10/24/08
Posts: 967
Loc: Iowa
How good are your shocks/struts? Are your steering parts tight? Also, what is your driving style like?
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#4643568 - 01/22/18 11:31 PM Re: Michelin tires wore out rapidly [Re: Reddy45]
llmercll Offline


Registered: 09/01/13
Posts: 97
Loc: ny
The defenders have 90k warranty. It's on my receipt from sears.

Driving style is smooth.

Shocks and struts are pretty bad, OEM from a 2003 model so...

I have no way of knowing if my steering parts are tight, I assume so.

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#4643578 - 01/22/18 11:46 PM Re: Michelin tires wore out rapidly [Re: llmercll]
mrsilv04 Offline


Registered: 12/08/06
Posts: 8275
Loc: Illinois
I had a set of Defenders wear down to 5/32" remaining, in 37,500 miles.

Not as bad as the wear that you saw, but I was disappointed in this result as well.
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#4643588 - 01/23/18 12:38 AM Re: Michelin tires wore out rapidly [Re: llmercll]
Reddy45 Offline


Registered: 08/15/08
Posts: 2973
Loc: USA
I'm still not understanding how a warranty for 90k = tread should last 90k.

Your driving style, the roads you frequently drive on, the amount of weight you carry -- these all impact tread wear.

I can see the warranty covering if the tire had a manufacturing defect that caused it to explode exactly at 89,999 miles, but that's different than routine wear and tear from use. (and they'd warranty just the one tire that exploded)



Seems like if you got 40k out of them, AND Michelin is offering to prorate a new set by half the price then you're about even steven.

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#4643590 - 01/23/18 12:55 AM Re: Michelin tires wore out rapidly [Re: llmercll]
FZ1 Offline


Registered: 02/07/08
Posts: 4727
Loc: Texas
Get the new tires at 55% off. When the new tires wear out at 40,000 get another 55% off set and repeat.

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#4643592 - 01/23/18 01:04 AM Re: Michelin tires wore out rapidly [Re: Reddy45]
Wolf359 Offline


Registered: 04/27/12
Posts: 4757
Loc: MA
Originally Posted By: Reddy45
I'm still not understanding how a warranty for 90k = tread should last 90k.

Your driving style, the roads you frequently drive on, the amount of weight you carry -- these all impact tread wear.

I can see the warranty covering if the tire had a manufacturing defect that caused it to explode exactly at 89,999 miles, but that's different than routine wear and tear from use. (and they'd warranty just the one tire that exploded)

Seems like if you got 40k out of them, AND Michelin is offering to prorate a new set by half the price then you're about even steven.


Hmm... I thought a tread wear warranty that says the tread should last 90k is the indication that the tread should last 90k on a properly maintained vehicle. Of course worn suspension components, and worn out front end parts could lead to premature wear. The other question would be if the ball joints, tie rods, control arms, wheel bearings etc are in good condition. A good mechanic can check those out. Those would also lead to premature wear. The OP is lucky that Sears is pro-rating them. Usually there's several exceptions where if the tires aren't rotated, they don't honor the warranty. It also excludes improper maintenance. Over/under inflation would also be another factor.

I'm leaning toward blaming the OP as he already admitted that the suspension components were worn.

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#4643593 - 01/23/18 01:11 AM Re: Michelin tires wore out rapidly [Re: llmercll]
gathermewool Offline


Registered: 01/09/09
Posts: 5995
Even wear?

Any unusual wear pattern, cupping, etc?

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#4643595 - 01/23/18 01:19 AM Re: Michelin tires wore out rapidly [Re: llmercll]
carloz Offline


Registered: 01/03/17
Posts: 43
Loc: Fl
Load rating and tire inflation are also some factors that can affect tread life.

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#4643610 - 01/23/18 03:24 AM Re: Michelin tires wore out rapidly [Re: llmercll]
PandaBear Offline


Registered: 08/05/02
Posts: 14220
Loc: Silicon Valley
Even wear is the key, if you have alignment problem or suspension problem or not rotate them they will wear out faster.
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#4643630 - 01/23/18 05:21 AM Re: Michelin tires wore out rapidly [Re: llmercll]
rooflessVW Online   content


Registered: 12/24/11
Posts: 4059
Loc: North Carolina
Tread warranty =/= tread life.

What's the difference between $800 every 90l miles and $360 every 40k miles? To me it seems like you're still on top.
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#4643632 - 01/23/18 05:24 AM Re: Michelin tires wore out rapidly [Re: llmercll]
toneydoc Offline


Registered: 12/16/11
Posts: 1696
Loc: War Eagle
Go and get a new set at 55% off and call it your lucky day to get the new rubber under warranty
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