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#4642581 - 01/22/18 07:40 AM What is it you want?
Snagglefoot Offline

Registered: 12/31/17
Posts: 951
Loc: Alberta
Just wondering, what is it that everyone wants from their vehicle? With all these discussions and opinions on motor oil, what is the general expectation for their car? I'll tell you mine. I want my car (or truck) engine to last 200,000 miles. I do not want the vehicle to end up as a oil burner, or have any strange ticks or knocks. If the vehicle makes it to 200,000 miles, it's time to get another one. I don't bother trying to go beyond 200,000 miles. Since getting 200,000 miles varies with the amount of driving, I'm thinking for most people this would take around 8 to 10 years. How many of us are willing to keep a vehicle that long?

I'm finding you can run virtually any brand of oil, conventional or synthetic, and virtually any weight and still get 100,000 miles from a modern engine. So, if someone is leasing a car and trading in, every 3 to 6 years, they might not see 100,000 miles, yet they will argue vehemently about which brand xxW-xx they run. I get a kick out of that!

However, this forum is one of the more interesting ones around and I like seeing all the opinions and heated discussions.

One thing for sure. When I hear of a car getting 3 or 400,000 miles, you get my total respect!


#4642584 - 01/22/18 07:47 AM Re: What is it you want? [Re: Snagglefoot]
Gebo Offline

Registered: 09/18/02
Posts: 1905
Loc: VA
300k is my minimum bar. I'm expecting 400K minimum out of my '98 LS400. I don't care about how old it is. I simply go for total miles.
'98 LEX LS400 280K
'00 LEX GS300 190K
'02 4Runner 225K
'05 Lex LS430 80K
'06 Toyota Highlander 140K
'09 Lex IS350 80K

#4642585 - 01/22/18 07:49 AM Re: What is it you want? [Re: Snagglefoot]
Chris142 Offline

Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 16355
Loc: Deplorable in apple valley, ca
Our shop truck has 425k on it. It gets whatever oil is on sale. Usually proline from pep boys. I change it when I remember too.

I expect my stuff to run forever without any major mechanical issues.
02 Wrangler super-s 10w30
87 F250 proline 15w40
04 Tahoe super-s 10w30
Z400 Lucas 10w30
KLR250 Maxima 10w40
Can am maveric edge 5w40
57 case tractor 15w40

#4642589 - 01/22/18 07:52 AM Re: What is it you want? [Re: Snagglefoot]
2dogs Offline

Registered: 02/01/17
Posts: 48
Loc: NY
I hear you Snaglefoot....200,000 miles without a major repair, not burning oil, and not a rust bucket. After that, I'd probably be bored and want a new car.

#4642597 - 01/22/18 07:59 AM Re: What is it you want? [Re: Snagglefoot]
SilverFusion2010 Offline

Registered: 06/29/11
Posts: 1489
Loc: Crawfordville FL
At least 300k without major repairs. So far so good, just regular maintenance. If you do the regular maintenance, the items that tend to cost big money to repair, are far less likely to break.

173k Iíve changed oil, transmission fluid, coolant, air filters, brakes, 4 sets of tires and a PCV valve. Oh and spark plugs around 120k. All regular maintenance items, car starts right up and takes me where I need to go comfortably.

Edit: also a few light bulbs and cabin air filters, wipers etc

Edited by SilverFusion2010 (01/22/18 08:13 AM)
2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 175k miles M1 AFE 0w-20

#4642604 - 01/22/18 08:04 AM Re: What is it you want? [Re: Snagglefoot]
jeepman3071 Offline

Registered: 04/15/10
Posts: 4048
Loc: Storrs, Connecticut
Something fairly reliable, fun to drive, somewhat practical, and I can maintain myself.
2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4.0L (178k) - Pennzoil HM 5w30, Napa Gold 1516, Magnefine trans filter

#4642606 - 01/22/18 08:08 AM Re: What is it you want? [Re: Snagglefoot]
Blkstanger Offline

Registered: 08/13/11
Posts: 1859
Loc: Lakeside, CA
I "want" my Jeep to last forever. It's at 181k right now. I hope it goes 300k. Some do.
99 Jeep WJ 4.7 182,000 PHM 10w30, Fram Ultra.

#4642608 - 01/22/18 08:10 AM Re: What is it you want? [Re: Snagglefoot]
littleant Offline

Registered: 10/10/17
Posts: 230
Loc: Vermont
200,000 to 250,000 miles works for me. Most important to keep it from rotting away. So far no rot. Not used in Winter if I can help it. 2010 Mountaineer 4.0 68,350 miles. QSUD 5W30 Fram ultra. Wife's 02 jeep 165,000 miles 4.0. Every day is a gift. 3 season vehicle. Summer used for Maintenance. Still runs great.
I can't prevent getting old but I REFUSE to grow up.
2010 Mountaineer 4.0
2002 Jeep Wrangler TJ 4.0

#4642617 - 01/22/18 08:21 AM Re: What is it you want? [Re: Snagglefoot]
rooflessVW Offline

Registered: 12/24/11
Posts: 3512
Loc: North Carolina
I want a car that's nice to drive. The only things that kill my cars are boredom or collisions.
"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."

#4642623 - 01/22/18 08:28 AM Re: What is it you want? [Re: Snagglefoot]
gfh77665 Offline

Registered: 09/01/08
Posts: 3708
Loc: Southeast Texas
I want 300K for sure. Given we drive mostly highway, I think thats reasonable.

#4642630 - 01/22/18 08:38 AM Re: What is it you want? [Re: Snagglefoot]
kschachn Offline

Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 9024
Loc: Upper Midwest
Not all vehicles age the same of course. The amount of work I've had to do on my BMW to get it to where it is today is easily more than the other three combined, but it is also the oldest one on a calendar basis. The interior of the BMW engine though is by far the cleanest, it has no visible varnish or sludge in the valve train whereas my old Sienna looked worse at the equivalent mileage. Climate has been far less kind to the BMW, it has well-known rust issues in the doors which I partially mitigated this year with four rust free doors I painted myself and installed. There still isn't any visible exterior rust on the Accord nor the Sienna, there's some clearcoat breakdown but that's about it.

What I've always wanted from any of my vehicles is to be able to get into any of them at any time and drive anywhere I want to go. That's what I shoot for.
1994 BMW 530i, 224K
1996 Honda Accord, 258K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 387K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 264K

#4642631 - 01/22/18 08:40 AM Re: What is it you want? [Re: Snagglefoot]
FordCapriDriver Offline

Registered: 10/22/15
Posts: 2278
Loc: Balearic Islands , Spain
I expect to never sell my Capri, it currently has 306k miles and going strong, the engine has 100-120k and it's absolutely ok and after a valve stem seal change burns no oil.
1975 Ford Capri II Ghia 3000 V6
1988 Ford Escort 1.6 Xr3i Convertible
1999 Peugeot 106 1.1i Max
Finnish expat living in Spain

#4642632 - 01/22/18 08:40 AM Re: What is it you want? [Re: Snagglefoot]
Boomer Offline

Registered: 09/19/08
Posts: 1904
Loc: Pennsylvania
I keep my cars 10+ years at which point I usually have just over 100,000 miles. Last one I got rid of was a Saturn L-300 I had for 13 years with 132.000 miles on it. By then, I am bored with the vehicle and replace it.
2013 VW Passat TDI SE, 54,300 miles Castrol Professional VW507 5W-30
2017 VW Golf All Track 11,750 miles Castrol Professional VW505 10W-40

#4642633 - 01/22/18 08:41 AM Re: What is it you want? [Re: Snagglefoot]
farrarfan1 Offline

Registered: 06/24/04
Posts: 1543
Loc: Indiana
Something my wife and I will enjoy driving for 2-3 years before trading it in on another new one.
If laughter is the best medicine, then why do sick people go to doctors instead of comedians?

#4642637 - 01/22/18 08:45 AM Re: What is it you want? [Re: Snagglefoot]
khittner Offline

Registered: 07/13/12
Posts: 231
Loc: Michigan
I tend to keep vehicles until the OEM and aftermarket parts suppliers don't really support the vehicle any more. We drove my wife's last car, a '98 Isuzu Oasis minivan (really a re-badged 1st-gen Honda Odyssey) until, at 13 years 265K miles, and it needed a transmission rebuild, it leaked rainwater through the tailgate door seal, and at least one of the spark plugs seemed firmly rooted/seized in the aluminum cylinder head. Isuzu had gotten out of the U.S. car business, and I had to use a phony Odyssey VIN to get any parts out of my local Honda dealer for it. I still have its nice OEM Enkei-made alloy wheels (refinished once, about 11 years ago) on the '02 Camry (266K on it) that my college student son drives. I've owned my '95 Dodge Dakota truck since it rolled off the truck at the dealer 221K miles ago.

Edited by khittner (01/22/18 08:48 AM)

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