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Pentosin Oils #4642286
01/21/18 07:24 PM
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San Rafael, CA
dogememe Offline OP
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At work we sell Pentosin oil, both in 5w-30 and 5w-40. I would sure hope it's a quality oil for roughly $12/qt, but do we know anything about it?


2010 Ford Escape 2.5 ~91K Miles: AMSOIL SS 5W-30, AMSOIL SS FE ATF.
1995 Chevy Silverado 5.7 ~277K Miles: Delo 10W-30, AMSOIL OE MV ATF.
AMSOIL
Re: Pentosin Oils [Re: dogememe] #4642306
01/21/18 07:55 PM
01/21/18 07:55 PM
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Waco, TX
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I got some at Autozone's year end clearance two Decembers ago.

It's good oil, but low-SAPS (not a lot of TBN)


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Pentosin Oils [Re: dogememe] #4642324
01/21/18 08:19 PM
01/21/18 08:19 PM
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Kalifornia Kollective
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Excellent oil, but not long life IIRC ... So, maybe 7,500 mile oil changes smile


Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
Re: Pentosin Oils [Re: BrocLuno] #4642341
01/21/18 08:33 PM
01/21/18 08:33 PM
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Waco, TX
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Originally Posted By: BrocLuno
Excellent oil, but not long life IIRC ... So, maybe 7,500 mile oil changes smile


That's an easy run in a Ford 4.6 or Chevy 5.3 grin


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Pentosin Oils [Re: dogememe] #4642370
01/21/18 09:08 PM
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Linctex Online content
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There are several versions, actually

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=915759

Quote: "I believe both Pentosin PentoSpeed 0W-30 and Elf Excellium Full Tech 0W-30 are group IV.
These two are BMW LL-01 ACEA A3 B3 with the API SL GF3 rating.

Any oil with the single BMW Long Life (LL-01) ACEA A3 B3 are to be Group IV or V.
The newer superseded BMW LL-04 ACEA A3 B3 C3 can be Group III, IV, or V. The newer spec may be API SM GF4 rated."

also:
"(voll) Full-synthetic = Grp IV and/or V
HC-synthetic = Hydro-Cracked, Grp III
That's the easy way to tell
In Europe a full-synthetic can't use hydrocracked basestocks, but that's not how it is in the states as most full-synthetics are Grp III."


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Pentosin Oils [Re: Linctex] #4642469
01/22/18 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted By: Linctex
Any oil with the single BMW Long Life (LL-01) ACEA A3 B3 are to be Group IV or V.

I'm not so sure though.

Re: Pentosin Oils [Re: Linctex] #4642475
01/22/18 01:18 AM
01/22/18 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted By: Linctex
There are several versions, actually

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=915759

Quote: "I believe both Pentosin PentoSpeed 0W-30 and Elf Excellium Full Tech 0W-30 are group IV.
These two are BMW LL-01 ACEA A3 B3 with the API SL GF3 rating.

Any oil with the single BMW Long Life (LL-01) ACEA A3 B3 are to be Group IV or V.
The newer superseded BMW LL-04 ACEA A3 B3 C3 can be Group III, IV, or V. The newer spec may be API SM GF4 rated."

also:
"(voll) Full-synthetic = Grp IV and/or V
HC-synthetic = Hydro-Cracked, Grp III
That's the easy way to tell
In Europe a full-synthetic can't use hydrocracked basestocks, but that's not how it is in the states as most full-synthetics are Grp III."


Not true!
BMW LL-01 can be Group II, IV or V.
In Europe HC oils can be labeled as full synthetic. ONLY in Germany they cannot.


15' Toyota Sienna AWD (Mobil1 0W20 EP+ 2qt of M1 0W40 + FRAM Ultra).
11' VW Tiguan 2.0T (Castrol 0W40+MANN filter)
Re: Pentosin Oils [Re: dogememe] #4642477
01/22/18 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted By: dogememe
At work we sell Pentosin oil, both in 5w-30 and 5w-40. I would sure hope it's a quality oil for roughly $12/qt, but do we know anything about it?

Good oils, maybe better then average, but that is it. 5W40 Pentosin is average HC oil. Much better oils available in the market, including Wal Mart. However, their 5W30 Pento III that meets VW 504.00/507.00, MB 229.51 and BMW LL-04 for diesel engines is really, really good.
They were taken over by Fuchs in March 2016, so I do not know whether anything is changed. Pentosin is mostly known as best in business when it comes to steering fluid, DSG fluids and really good (not best) brake fluid.


15' Toyota Sienna AWD (Mobil1 0W20 EP+ 2qt of M1 0W40 + FRAM Ultra).
11' VW Tiguan 2.0T (Castrol 0W40+MANN filter)
Re: Pentosin Oils [Re: edyvw] #4642749
01/22/18 10:26 AM
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Waco, TX
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Originally Posted By: edyvw
However, their 5W30 Pento III that meets VW 504.00/507.00, MB 229.51 and BMW LL-04 for diesel engines is really, really good.


Better than Mobil 1? I have a bunch from autozone, I was going to sell it, maybe I'll use it.


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Pentosin Oils [Re: Linctex] #4643070
01/22/18 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: Linctex
Originally Posted By: edyvw
However, their 5W30 Pento III that meets VW 504.00/507.00, MB 229.51 and BMW LL-04 for diesel engines is really, really good.


Better than Mobil 1? I have a bunch from autozone, I was going to sell it, maybe I'll use it.

Which Mobil1? Mobil1 5W30 ESP? I still think ESP is better then Pentosin Superpento III.


15' Toyota Sienna AWD (Mobil1 0W20 EP+ 2qt of M1 0W40 + FRAM Ultra).
11' VW Tiguan 2.0T (Castrol 0W40+MANN filter)

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