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#4642286 - 01/21/18 07:24 PM Pentosin Oils
dogememe Offline


Registered: 04/15/17
Posts: 593
Loc: SF BAY AREA, CA
At work we sell Pentosin oil, both in 5w-30 and 5w-40. I would sure hope it's a quality oil for roughly $12/qt, but do we know anything about it?
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#4642306 - 01/21/18 07:55 PM Re: Pentosin Oils [Re: dogememe]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 6148
Loc: Waco, TX
I got some at Autozone's year end clearance two Decembers ago.

It's good oil, but low-SAPS (not a lot of TBN)
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#4642324 - 01/21/18 08:19 PM Re: Pentosin Oils [Re: dogememe]
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Registered: 09/06/15
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Loc: Kalifornia Kollective
Excellent oil, but not long life IIRC ... So, maybe 7,500 mile oil changes smile
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#4642341 - 01/21/18 08:33 PM Re: Pentosin Oils [Re: BrocLuno]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 6148
Loc: Waco, TX
Originally Posted By: BrocLuno
Excellent oil, but not long life IIRC ... So, maybe 7,500 mile oil changes smile


That's an easy run in a Ford 4.6 or Chevy 5.3 grin
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#4642370 - 01/21/18 09:08 PM Re: Pentosin Oils [Re: dogememe]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 6148
Loc: Waco, TX
There are several versions, actually

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=915759

Quote: "I believe both Pentosin PentoSpeed 0W-30 and Elf Excellium Full Tech 0W-30 are group IV.
These two are BMW LL-01 ACEA A3 B3 with the API SL GF3 rating.

Any oil with the single BMW Long Life (LL-01) ACEA A3 B3 are to be Group IV or V.
The newer superseded BMW LL-04 ACEA A3 B3 C3 can be Group III, IV, or V. The newer spec may be API SM GF4 rated."

also:
"(voll) Full-synthetic = Grp IV and/or V
HC-synthetic = Hydro-Cracked, Grp III
That's the easy way to tell
In Europe a full-synthetic can't use hydrocracked basestocks, but that's not how it is in the states as most full-synthetics are Grp III."
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#4642469 - 01/22/18 12:30 AM Re: Pentosin Oils [Re: Linctex]
zeng Offline


Registered: 09/01/15
Posts: 2183
Loc: Malaysia
Originally Posted By: Linctex
Any oil with the single BMW Long Life (LL-01) ACEA A3 B3 are to be Group IV or V.

I'm not so sure though.

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#4642475 - 01/22/18 01:18 AM Re: Pentosin Oils [Re: Linctex]
edyvw Online   content


Registered: 03/08/12
Posts: 5026
Loc: Colorado Springs
Originally Posted By: Linctex
There are several versions, actually

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=915759

Quote: "I believe both Pentosin PentoSpeed 0W-30 and Elf Excellium Full Tech 0W-30 are group IV.
These two are BMW LL-01 ACEA A3 B3 with the API SL GF3 rating.

Any oil with the single BMW Long Life (LL-01) ACEA A3 B3 are to be Group IV or V.
The newer superseded BMW LL-04 ACEA A3 B3 C3 can be Group III, IV, or V. The newer spec may be API SM GF4 rated."

also:
"(voll) Full-synthetic = Grp IV and/or V
HC-synthetic = Hydro-Cracked, Grp III
That's the easy way to tell
In Europe a full-synthetic can't use hydrocracked basestocks, but that's not how it is in the states as most full-synthetics are Grp III."


Not true!
BMW LL-01 can be Group II, IV or V.
In Europe HC oils can be labeled as full synthetic. ONLY in Germany they cannot.
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#4642477 - 01/22/18 01:21 AM Re: Pentosin Oils [Re: dogememe]
edyvw Online   content


Registered: 03/08/12
Posts: 5026
Loc: Colorado Springs
Originally Posted By: dogememe
At work we sell Pentosin oil, both in 5w-30 and 5w-40. I would sure hope it's a quality oil for roughly $12/qt, but do we know anything about it?

Good oils, maybe better then average, but that is it. 5W40 Pentosin is average HC oil. Much better oils available in the market, including Wal Mart. However, their 5W30 Pento III that meets VW 504.00/507.00, MB 229.51 and BMW LL-04 for diesel engines is really, really good.
They were taken over by Fuchs in March 2016, so I do not know whether anything is changed. Pentosin is mostly known as best in business when it comes to steering fluid, DSG fluids and really good (not best) brake fluid.
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#4642749 - 01/22/18 10:26 AM Re: Pentosin Oils [Re: edyvw]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 6148
Loc: Waco, TX
Originally Posted By: edyvw
However, their 5W30 Pento III that meets VW 504.00/507.00, MB 229.51 and BMW LL-04 for diesel engines is really, really good.


Better than Mobil 1? I have a bunch from autozone, I was going to sell it, maybe I'll use it.
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#4643070 - 01/22/18 02:57 PM Re: Pentosin Oils [Re: Linctex]
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Registered: 03/08/12
Posts: 5026
Loc: Colorado Springs
Originally Posted By: Linctex
Originally Posted By: edyvw
However, their 5W30 Pento III that meets VW 504.00/507.00, MB 229.51 and BMW LL-04 for diesel engines is really, really good.


Better than Mobil 1? I have a bunch from autozone, I was going to sell it, maybe I'll use it.

Which Mobil1? Mobil1 5W30 ESP? I still think ESP is better then Pentosin Superpento III.
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