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"Raw" water is now a thing... #4642038
01/21/18 04:31 PM
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Indiana
5AcresAndAFool Offline OP
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Raw water trend

So now people are wanting to drink water that's "off grid" and "raw". They are paying 2.50 a gallon for unfiltered, untreated spring water. There is a natural spring less than 10 minutes from my house where many locals go and fill up jugs and I have had some of that water and it didn't do anything for me.

Now I see some peoples concerns about lead pipes,fluoride, and more importantly chlorine used to purify municipal water. IIRC chlorine is a neurotoxin. I have had been on a municipal system that drew out of Lake Michigan, and water from 2 different municipal wells, and the lake water was by far the best, but you always had a chlorine taste to the water. The worst was the municipal well water because they had trouble meeting standards so it had a lot of chemicals in it. In that municipality and sometimes the chlorine smell/taste was ridiculous.

In that house I had to install a whole house charcoal filter which helped, but was spent pretty quickly.

Now we are on a private well, and I LOVE our drinking water, it goes thru 2 whole house filters, a softner and a 5 stage RO system before we drink it, but its lovely water. Now we have a "raw" well water tap at our kitchen sink that was put in when they built the house. Thats all the guy drank for water, and hes over 80 now and still kicking. Ive drank it before and it tastes like you are licking an iron pipe.

That being said, I always thought well water was a drawback, a uncertain necessity of rural living. Maybe I was wrong.... Though I would say that the people paying 2.50 a gallon for raw water would probably never live anywhere they would have a private well.

2018 is an amazing time to experience, people are eating laundry detergent and washing it down with bacteria laden water.

Last edited by 5AcresAndAFool; 01/21/18 04:45 PM.
Re: "Raw" water is now a thing... [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4642047
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A few diseases like Cholera will eventually cure that fad!


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Re: "Raw" water is now a thing... [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4642049
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On a municipal system you might be very surprised to learn that your water comes from a well. Nothing wrong with well water at all. Different regions have various mineral or hardness content.

At my house the water comes from a watershed source but that could easily be a well too. The city itself has numerous wells that are used during summer when usage is up.




Re: "Raw" water is now a thing... [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4642057
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I enjoy tap water.
Every day.
Cincinnati (and Hamilton, OH) has one of the best public water systems in the country.

If they can pull that off considering where it comes from (Ohio River) it's good enough for me.


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Re: "Raw" water is now a thing... [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4642061
01/21/18 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
A few diseases like Cholera will eventually cure that fad!

Yep, which is best controlled by getting contaminated sewerage contained and treated.


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Re: "Raw" water is now a thing... [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4642064
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Yet another invented problem that will drive the ignorant (and fools) into needlessly worrying about something that isn't a problem.


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Re: "Raw" water is now a thing... [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4642066
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You should check the pH of your water after its been through all that. Guaranteed to be a low pH which is bad.


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Re: "Raw" water is now a thing... [Re: Chris142] #4642067
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Originally Posted By: Chris142
You should check the pH of your water after its been through all that. Guaranteed to be a low pH which is bad.

Bad how? Once it gets into the stomach what happens to the pH there?


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Re: "Raw" water is now a thing... [Re: Chris142] #4642082
01/21/18 05:04 PM
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Indiana
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Originally Posted By: Chris142
You should check the pH of your water after its been through all that. Guaranteed to be a low pH which is bad.


The RO has a final "finishing" filter that helps control the PH. Its basically a remineralizer filter. It is a very real issue, I have a tap that does not go thru the finishing filter for filling up humidifiers and such. If you put baking soda in that water you get a bit of fizz.

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Re: "Raw" water is now a thing... [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4642090
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Idiots in the city.


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Re: "Raw" water is now a thing... [Re: kschachn] #4642092
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Originally Posted By: kschachn
Yet another invented problem that will drive the ignorant (and fools) into needlessly worrying about something that isn't a problem.
Close to the which is the oil is the best posts.


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Re: "Raw" water is now a thing... [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4642112
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Re: "Raw" water is now a thing... [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4642119
01/21/18 05:58 PM
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OP, does your system use any disinfectant such as UV light in lieu of chemical sanitizer? I understand the buffering system for your piping as RO product water is "hungry" water.

What is your permeate to reject water ratio, and where is your reject water discharged?


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Re: "Raw" water is now a thing... [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4642125
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Food fads are stupid and the people who get sucked into them are idiots.

Re: "Raw" water is now a thing... [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4642132
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Lol so is dysentery. Water is treated for a reason.

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