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A spot on blueing #4641345
01/20/18 08:30 PM
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JHZR2 Offline OP
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Ive got a beatuiful S&W 15-3, the images below don't do it justice. I bought it used obviously, and the only minor issue is a spot on the cylinder. Any idea what the typical cause would be? I'm guessing leaving it alone is the best option since all the adjacent blueing is perfect. That said, if there was a way to make it less obvious, what would the best method be?





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Re: A spot on blueing [Re: JHZR2] #4641353
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call it a Cindy Crawford beauty mark. Gun woudn't be the same without it.

Re: A spot on blueing [Re: JHZR2] #4641354
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Re: A spot on blueing [Re: JHZR2] #4641378
01/20/18 08:57 PM
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Model 15 my first handgun. Great little guns and all of them seem to be good shooters. I've had mine since 1969. It also has a four inch barrel.


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Re: A spot on blueing [Re: JHZR2] #4641380
01/20/18 08:59 PM
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I had a similar situation. the rust may have spread out and it might only be a small pit smile

I used some Break-Free on a soft cotton cloth and worked it for a while after soaking. The surface rust went away. The pits are there, but now dormant smile


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Re: A spot on blueing [Re: JHZR2] #4641386
01/20/18 09:07 PM
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Send it off to Smith and get it redone.

https://www.smith-wesson.com/customer-service/precision-gunsmithing

The High Bright re-blue and polish is $275

Not a bad idea anyway. They can check everything out and make sure it is good to go mechanically.

I have had two revolvers done at the Shop

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Re: A spot on blueing [Re: JHZR2] #4641397
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There's not anything a whole lot better than a Smith K-Frame .38 4". Probably the most perfectly shooting handgun there is. Just in my opinion. cheers

Re: A spot on blueing [Re: JHZR2] #4641411
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You might want to try soaking the cylinder in Kroil.


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Re: A spot on blueing [Re: JHZR2] #4641415
01/20/18 09:31 PM
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You guys have me all wound up now. There's a beautiful Smith 67-1 sitting in a pawnshop for $450.

Re: A spot on blueing [Re: JHZR2] #4641446
01/20/18 10:13 PM
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After a lot of years of experience with this issue, this is what I do:

I use an extremely soft cloth and work out as much of the oxidation as I can with Mother's Mag Polish. I also go over the entire blue lightly to remove oxidation you can't see. If you do this lightly, it will not remove bluing, will give you a nice surface to then wax/oil or protect as you want. You can cold-blue it afterwards to minimize the appearance.

A 15 was my first S&W about 25 years ago. I had it tuned and hard-chromed (the finish was very poor already) at APW/Cogan and it was one very impressive gun. That gun is in really excellent shape otherwise and a re-finish or anything excessive would be overkill. Having just the cylinder done runs the risk of mis-matching the blue as salt-bath batches can vary in results. It would very likely be "good enough," but I think again overkill.

Typical cause for a mark like that is long-term storage without any handling/wiping down. Someone put it away with a bit of perspiration or something on it, and then it sat that way for a period. Very common on guns not used or handled much.

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You guys have me all wound up now. There's a beautiful Smith 67-1 sitting in a pawnshop for $450.


If it is really clean, that's a really very, very good aksing price and you should go haggle about it.

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Re: A spot on blueing [Re: Oro_O] #4641448
01/20/18 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted By: Oro_O
After a lot of years of experience with this issue, this is what I do:

I use an extremely soft cloth and work out as much of the oxidation as I can with Mother's Mag Polish. I also go over the entire blue lightly to remove oxidation you can't see. If you do this lightly, it will not remove bluing, will give you a nice surface to then wax/oil or protect as you want. You can cold-blue it afterwards to minimize the appearance.

A 15 was my first S&W about 25 years ago. I had it tuned and hard-chromed (the finish was very poor already) at APW/Cogan and it was one very impressive gun. That gun is in really excellent shape otherwise and a re-finish or anything excessive would be overkill. Having just the cylinder done runs the risk of mis-matching the blue as salt-bath batches can vary in results. It would very likely be "good enough," but I think again overkill.

Quote:
You guys have me all wound up now. There's a beautiful Smith 67-1 sitting in a pawnshop for $450.


If it is really clean, that's a really very, very good aksing price and you should go haggle about it.


It has been there a while. The only issue is I already have one. That is one of the ones I sent off to the Performance Shop.

Re: A spot on blueing [Re: JHZR2] #4641451
01/20/18 10:20 PM
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That's a very nice looking firearm, congrats.

Work of advice, don't go near it with cold blue...you'll just spread the problem.

Re: A spot on blueing [Re: JHZR2] #4641493
01/20/18 11:09 PM
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That wear is from being carried in a leather holster. Cowboy style.


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Re: A spot on blueing [Re: danez_yoda] #4641555
01/21/18 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted By: danez_yoda
call it a Cindy Crawford beauty mark. Gun woudn't be the same without it.


First post nailed it! Its a very nice looking used Smith revolver! I don't mind that some of my guns "look" used....


P.S. I dropped my perfect model 29 in elk poop in the dark one evening, it stained the bluing, it is now a very nice used gun.


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Re: A spot on blueing [Re: JHZR2] #4641567
01/21/18 03:56 AM
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Leave it alone. Odds are if you end up screwing with it you'll just make it worse.

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