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[Cut Open] Fram PH7317 - Virgin - Silicone ADBV #4640931
01/20/18 12:19 PM
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Robert
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Re: [Cut Open] Fram PH7317 - Virgin - Silicone ADBV [Re: DuckRyder] #4640937
01/20/18 12:25 PM
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Texas (south)
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Looks so and so


Always Mobil 1
2014 1.6L Nissan Versa Sedan, 5 spd, 5k OCI.
2011 3.5L Chevrolet Impala, Automatic, 5k OCI.
Re: [Cut Open] Fram PH7317 - Virgin - Silicone ADBV [Re: DuckRyder] #4640945
01/20/18 12:31 PM
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Clermont, Florida
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I have one on the table in my garage waiting for my oil change next weekend. I am sure that it and thousands like it will do just fine. Thanks for the C&P.


Jimmy9190
2013 Honda Civic LX Sedan
QSUD 0W20
Fram PH7317
Re: [Cut Open] Fram PH7317 - Virgin - Silicone ADBV [Re: DuckRyder] #4640948
01/20/18 12:35 PM
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Jacksonville, FL
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This is a great value for cost filter, especially with the silicon ADBV. I just purchased a PH4967 today that also has the new updated ADBV. I really like that Fram is adapting to the market and adjusting the construction of even their entry level filter to provide protection for the longer drain intervals on newer cars. You no longer have to pay the price premium for a TG just to get a silicon ADBV. I really like that because in a lot of cases a PH series filter is more than adequate especially with the silicon ADBV. Nice work Fram and thanks for cutting this filter for us.


Luke
P-3C and P-8A Maritime Weapons and Tactics Instructor, Instructor Tactical Coordinator and Mission Commander
Re: [Cut Open] Fram PH7317 - Virgin - Silicone ADBV [Re: DuckRyder] #4640951
01/20/18 12:38 PM
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Bottom end cap looks different. Other ones have points and are not round. There appears to be some tiny nubs, maybe this model has it that way. Wonder how tight it fits in the can.

Re: [Cut Open] Fram PH7317 - Virgin - Silicone ADBV [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4640952
01/20/18 12:38 PM
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In the shop
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Originally Posted By: FlyNavyP3
This is a great value for cost filter, especially with the silicon ADBV. I just purchased a PH4967 today that also has the new updated ADBV. I really like that Fram is adapting to the market and adjusting the construction of even their entry level filter to provide protection for the longer drain intervals on newer cars. You no longer have to pay the price premium for a TG just to get a silicon ADBV. I really like that because in a lot of cases a PH series filter is more than adequate especially with the silicon ADBV. Nice work Fram and thanks for cutting this filter for us.


Thanks for C&p Robert


09' Camry LE

ST 5w30 and TG 4386(filter on for second 5k run)
Re: [Cut Open] Fram PH7317 - Virgin - Silicone ADBV [Re: DuckRyder] #4640954
01/20/18 12:47 PM
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MN
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Saw some of these yesterday at Fleet Farm.
Nowhere on the packaging do they give a mileage suggestion (used to be 5k miles).
Interesting.


2012 Toyota Camry 2.5 30,000 mi
2015 Chevy Silverado LT Z71 5.3 V8 30,000 mi
2010 Toyota Sienna 3.5 V6 150,000 mi
Re: [Cut Open] Fram PH7317 - Virgin - Silicone ADBV [Re: DuckRyder] #4640958
01/20/18 12:50 PM
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SE British Columbia, Canada
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Thanks for cutting it apart. You took a bullet for the team. Great photos.

SF

Last edited by Snagglefoot; 01/20/18 12:53 PM.

If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: [Cut Open] Fram PH7317 - Virgin - Silicone ADBV [Re: DuckRyder] #4640964
01/20/18 12:55 PM
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North Carolina
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Looks like a nice filter.

Orange Can Of Delight!


"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."
Re: [Cut Open] Fram PH7317 - Virgin - Silicone ADBV [Re: DuckRyder] #4640972
01/20/18 01:03 PM
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Indiana
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I'll take this over a WIX. Looks very good.


03 Jeep WJ 4.0 202k Edge 10w40 HM Fram XG16
02 Volvo S60 2.4T 186k M1 0w40 Mahle OX149D
97 Chevy Blazer 4.3 153k Synpower 5w30 Supertech ST3980 (Ecore)

Re: [Cut Open] Fram PH7317 - Virgin - Silicone ADBV [Re: DuckRyder] #4640976
01/20/18 01:07 PM
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New Jersey
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I wonder if that's what my Honeywell Honda branded filters look like.

Re: [Cut Open] Fram PH7317 - Virgin - Silicone ADBV [Re: DuckRyder] #4641022
01/20/18 01:49 PM
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Wet side WA
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I have a couple of those but the older ones without the updated ADBV. Being a 95% filter it will never be on my Toyota I'll likely give them to my stepson he isn't so fussy. His Corolla has 260K plus on it. Nice tool I got one of those for Christmas.


Last edited by JohnnyJohnson; 01/20/18 01:50 PM.

2004 Corolla 128335
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74615
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
Re: [Cut Open] Fram PH7317 - Virgin - Silicone ADBV [Re: DuckRyder] #4641023
01/20/18 01:51 PM
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Canada
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Mouldy endcaps! lol crackmeup
Filter looks great.


03 Neon 2.0 - VSP 5W-30 Pentius XL
Re: [Cut Open] Fram PH7317 - Virgin - Silicone ADBV [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4641065
01/20/18 02:40 PM
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Jacksonville, FL
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
I have a couple of those but the older ones without the updated ADBV. Being a 95% filter it will never be on my Toyota I'll likely give them to my stepson he isn't so fussy. His Corolla has 260K plus on it. Nice tool I got one of those for Christmas.



Considering its efficiency is roughly twice as good as the OE Toyota filter (as near as we can tell via the AMSOIL data) I can't think of a single good reason why it wouldn't be perfectly fine on any Toyota. If the other 4% efficiency is that important the tough guard is 99% @ 20um. For an entry level filter these are good performers now with a silicon ADBV. I have never really been a Fram guy but for the price an Extra Guard is hard to beat.


Luke
P-3C and P-8A Maritime Weapons and Tactics Instructor, Instructor Tactical Coordinator and Mission Commander
Re: [Cut Open] Fram PH7317 - Virgin - Silicone ADBV [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4641164
01/20/18 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: FlyNavyP3
Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
I have a couple of those but the older ones without the updated ADBV. Being a 95% filter it will never be on my Toyota I'll likely give them to my stepson he isn't so fussy. His Corolla has 260K plus on it. Nice tool I got one of those for Christmas.



Considering its efficiency is roughly twice as good as the OE Toyota filter (as near as we can tell via the AMSOIL data)


The February 2011 Amsoil study sure has legs. But, until Toyota states otherwise, I guess that is about all we have to go on. Meanwhile, I will continue to use that poorly rated filter and see how far I can take our RX330.


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11 Audi A4, 01 Audi A4
99 Lexus ES300, 98 Isuzu Trooper
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