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What does it take to test drive a car? #4640738
01/20/18 09:08 AM
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Quattro Pete Offline OP
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RANT:
I am currently trying to narrow down the field of possible vehicles to purchase. One possibility is Charger SRT. For the longest time, none of the local Dodge dealerships had any in stock. Now, one finally has one. So I want to come in for a test drive to determine if it's even something that I should continue taking into consideration.

The dealer tells me "the only way to pull it out to test drive it is to get a credit application showing that you are a qualified buyer and we need to have already agreed to numbers, terms, and conditions showing that you are going to purchase the vehicle pending an adequate test drive."

Are you kidding me? I realize they want to filter out joy riders, but this does me no good. There is no way I am going to talk numbers or fill out any applications until I first determine that I like the car.

Is this normal?

If that's the case, then I guess I have to cross this SRT off my list.


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Re: What does it take to test drive a car? [Re: Quattro Pete] #4640742
01/20/18 09:13 AM
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Pretty normal for a boutique car. Surprised they will let you test drive it at all honestly.

Last edited by mightymousetech; 01/20/18 09:13 AM.

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Re: What does it take to test drive a car? [Re: Quattro Pete] #4640743
01/20/18 09:15 AM
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Likely the results of many tire kickers wasting their time. If they had one in their demo fleet it might be easier but to pull a new one out and add miles to it requires time and effort.


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Re: What does it take to test drive a car? [Re: Quattro Pete] #4640748
01/20/18 09:17 AM
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This isn't the first time I've heard of this practice on a higher end model. Ford did the same thing with the Raptor if I recall when it first came out. Actually, I had a similar experience when I went to text drive a BMW X3. It wasn't even new. It was a used model at a Chevy dealership. I went in asking to test drive it and they refused until the numbers and credit app were taken care of. 1. I wasn't going to apply for credit through GM. 2. They wouldn't even give me the asking price on the vehicle. I turned around and walked out, went about 5 miles down the street and bought a vehicle from the Toyota dealership.

Last edited by RamFan; 01/20/18 09:18 AM.

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Re: What does it take to test drive a car? [Re: Quattro Pete] #4640749
01/20/18 09:17 AM
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Many test drive and buying stories are too funny at https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4526839/1

Recommend walking into a dealership well dressed, maybe even have a suit on. Make them think you're not a young punk looking for a joyride.
Like the other thread I linked to above said, they are always (or should!) weigh the risk vs. reward of being a total jerk with you.

Re: What does it take to test drive a car? [Re: Quattro Pete] #4640752
01/20/18 09:19 AM
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Tell them to get bent, and find another dealer. It's not a Bugatti. They made more than a few SRTs.

Edit: a suit to drive a Dodge? I don't think so.

Last edited by rooflessVW; 01/20/18 09:20 AM.

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Re: What does it take to test drive a car? [Re: Quattro Pete] #4640753
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I see nothing wrong with it put up or shut up.

Re: What does it take to test drive a car? [Re: rooflessVW] #4640764
01/20/18 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Tell them to get bent, and find another dealer. It's not a Bugatti. They made more than a few SRTs. Edit: a suit to drive a Dodge? I don't think so.
Maybe they are reducing production of SRT models. Moving more exclusive with 'em.
A suit might be too much. At least a shirt with no mustard stains on the front. (Means I can't ever test drive an SRT I guess....) drive smirk

Re: What does it take to test drive a car? [Re: Quattro Pete] #4640769
01/20/18 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
... but this does me no good. There is no way I am going to talk numbers or fill out any applications until I first determine that I like the car.

Is this normal?

If that's the case, then I guess I have to cross this SRT off my list.

Agreed, and completely ridiculous IMO. I don't know if it's normal or not. Maybe normal for this dealer?

Guess they figure if you want it badly enough you'll agree to almost anything including closing a deal before a test drive.

I'd walk and look elsewhere and/or for a different vehicle. I'm thinking lots of other nice vehicles in that price range and dealers that don't make whacked demands for a 'test drive'.

Re: What does it take to test drive a car? [Re: Quattro Pete] #4640773
01/20/18 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
RANT:
I am currently trying to narrow down the field of possible vehicles to purchase. One possibility is Charger SRT. For the longest time, none of the local Dodge dealerships had any in stock. Now, one finally has one. So I want to come in for a test drive to determine if it's even something that I should continue taking into consideration.

The dealer tells me "the only way to pull it out to test drive it is to get a credit application showing that you are a qualified buyer and we need to have already agreed to numbers, terms, and conditions showing that you are going to purchase the vehicle pending an adequate test drive."

Are you kidding me? I realize they want to filter out joy riders, but this does me no good. There is no way I am going to talk numbers or fill out any applications until I first determine that I like the car.

Is this normal?

If that's the case, then I guess I have to cross this SRT off my list.



Find another dealership.

A family friend is a millionaire and test drives AMG Benz in 'normal' clothes.

Maybe salesmen saw him drive up in a 911T.

Re: What does it take to test drive a car? [Re: Quattro Pete] #4640785
01/20/18 09:48 AM
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Cars that don't get test driven don't get bought. I would have turned on my heel and been gone before that salesman could have said wait!


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Re: What does it take to test drive a car? [Re: Quattro Pete] #4640786
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Would you want to purchase a factory hot rod that's been test driven hard?

Re: What does it take to test drive a car? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4640789
01/20/18 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
Would you want to purchase a factory hot rod that's been test driven hard?

I don't see much problem with it. The one in question already has 37 miles on it, so other people must have test driven it.

I guess I need to find a used one. They should be more willing to let me test drive that. But there aren't any used SRTs near me. I see one used R/T Scat Pack...



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'15 Q5 3.0T (Edge 5W-40)
'18 Charger SRT (PUP 0W-40 SRT)
Re: What does it take to test drive a car? [Re: Quattro Pete] #4640802
01/20/18 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
RANT:
I am currently trying to narrow down the field of possible vehicles to purchase. One possibility is Charger SRT. For the longest time, none of the local Dodge dealerships had any in stock. Now, one finally has one. So I want to come in for a test drive to determine if it's even something that I should continue taking into consideration.

The dealer tells me "the only way to pull it out to test drive it is to get a credit application showing that you are a qualified buyer and we need to have already agreed to numbers, terms, and conditions showing that you are going to purchase the vehicle pending an adequate test drive."

Are you kidding me? I realize they want to filter out joy riders, but this does me no good. There is no way I am going to talk numbers or fill out any applications until I first determine that I like the car.

Is this normal?

If that's the case, then I guess I have to cross this SRT off my list.



You just have to play the game. They don't want to put unnecessary miles on the car. Not a big deal to fill out a credit app. But it'd be even easier to just say you're going to pay cash, no need for a credit app in that case. You can test drive it and then just say you want to sleep on it afterwards. The sellers can make whatever rules they want. If they're too crazy, then there's no sale.

Re: What does it take to test drive a car? [Re: Wolf359] #4640838
01/20/18 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted By: Wolf359
You just have to play the game. They don't want to put unnecessary miles on the car. Not a big deal to fill out a credit app. But it'd be even easier to just say you're going to pay cash, no need for a credit app in that case. You can test drive it and then just say you want to sleep on it afterwards. The sellers can make whatever rules they want. If they're too crazy, then there's no sale.


Then we will need to see a bank statement, so bring that with you as well.

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