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'09 Honda Civic Manual Trans fluid? #4640352
01/19/18 07:51 PM
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Buffalo, New York
JimmyJohns Offline OP
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Hey guys, I bought a 2009 honda civic, 5 speed with 116k miles.
It's a little "notchy" going into gear, and I'm hoping/assuming, it needs a fluid change.
What do some of you guys recommend?

My friend told me honda fluid should be good, just looking for other opinions

Re: '09 Honda Civic Manual Trans fluid? [Re: JimmyJohns] #4640356
01/19/18 07:55 PM
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Indiana
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I put the Honda brand MT fluid in my Miata and it shifted beautifully. That stuff is really thin, but for street use should be fine for durability.

Re: '09 Honda Civic Manual Trans fluid? [Re: JimmyJohns] #4640360
01/19/18 07:57 PM
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Orlando, FL
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Honda MTF gets notchy after 25K miles.

New fluid will definitely make it a smoother shifting trans.

Re: '09 Honda Civic Manual Trans fluid? [Re: JimmyJohns] #4640385
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Honda MTF is the bee's knees.

Swap it out every 30k.


"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."
Re: '09 Honda Civic Manual Trans fluid? [Re: JimmyJohns] #4640402
01/19/18 08:39 PM
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Buy the Honda stuff. It's good stuff. In my Nissan MT, the oil viscosity is so niche, that I can just buy it there but it's really good as well.

Last edited by FermeLaPorte; 01/19/18 08:41 PM.

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Re: '09 Honda Civic Manual Trans fluid? [Re: JimmyJohns] #4640491
01/19/18 10:19 PM
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Buffalo, New York
JimmyJohns Offline OP
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Thanks folks, I really appreciate the responses, thats why I love this place. Any idea how much these take?

Re: '09 Honda Civic Manual Trans fluid? [Re: JimmyJohns] #4640504
01/19/18 10:34 PM
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Valencia, CA
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Buy the Honda MTF

Re: '09 Honda Civic Manual Trans fluid? [Re: JimmyJohns] #4640515
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Mine AT's, take about 2.5ish quarts of Honda ATF and love it smile


2006 Civic EX 202K/AT
2006 Acura TSX 180K/AT
Re: '09 Honda Civic Manual Trans fluid? [Re: JimmyJohns] #4640565
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I always use oem fluids.

Re: '09 Honda Civic Manual Trans fluid? [Re: JimmyJohns] #4640611
01/20/18 03:39 AM
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I had the Honda oem in there and then switched to Amsoil synchromesh 5w30 back in Minneapolis and in the really cold weather it seemed to shift a bit better.


2001 Honda civic HX vtecE- 5 spd,232k+
Re: '09 Honda Civic Manual Trans fluid? [Re: JimmyJohns] #4640690
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I've only used Honda MTF in my 2005 RSX.

Next fluid change I'll try Amsoil MTF.

Re: '09 Honda Civic Manual Trans fluid? [Re: JimmyJohns] #4640718
01/20/18 09:53 AM
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When we had a couple of stick Accords, I used Honda MTF. They took just over two quarts, so they got two. Seemed to shift pretty well and not at all notchy.
I've also heard good things about both GM and Pennzoil MT lubes but never tried either.
Even Red Line or Amsoil would be worth the money since you're only talking about a couple of quarts.
Now, back in the day, I used 10W-40 in our Civics and those were truly great shifting cars, although the shifters were both vague and stiff on very cold mornings until everything got a little warmed up.


17 Forester 12K MSS 0W-20
12 Accord LX 92K PP 5W-20
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01 Focus ZX3 118K PP 5W-20
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Re: '09 Honda Civic Manual Trans fluid? [Re: JimmyJohns] #4640719
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Here is the contrary one...

My experience with Honda MTF in my Honda was it got notchy really quick. I could feel too much through the stick when I shifted. I switched to Amsoil and it lasted bout 25K. The Amsoil got notchy only when it got cold. I switched to Redline and it lasted, well, it was still going strong at 55k.

The Redline gave me the smoothest shifts. They almost felt cushiony and I really liked that. Caveat, my Honda was a 1989 Prelude....

My advice is to try the new Honda fluid but be aware other ones may really work better. There will be so much difference among the various MTF's. I think Molakule has some viscosity charts comparing all the MTF's somewhere on this forum. He'd be a great guy to PM.


'98 LEX LS400 280K
'00 LEX GS300 195K
'02 4Runner 225K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'06 Toyota Highlander 145K
'09 Lex IS350 85K
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Re: '09 Honda Civic Manual Trans fluid? [Re: JimmyJohns] #4640731
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Many people are using the synchromesh type fluids in Hondas, specifically the AC Delco Friction Modified Synchromesh. Read the reviews. I have it in my Corolla (totally wrong viscosity), it went from almost needing a rebuild from a notchy 3rd gear syncro, to shifting like brand new. It's the best manual transmission fluid out there IMHO, especialy now that most vehicles call for thinner fluids. Mine specs 75w-90 which is 15 cst at 100c, the synchromesh is 9 cst. Works awesome, has been for 40,000 miles and no failures to speak of going to such a thin fluid.

https://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-10-4014-F...iction+modified

This is "The Fix" for Honda/Acura manual transmissions!
October 27, 2016
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I will admit I was more than a bit skeptical, but now I'm a True Believer!

I had a 2009 Honda Accord (4 cyl., 5-speed transmission) with a "notchy" 2-3 shift that the dealer couldn't fix. However, I didn't worry about it too much, as it was a "lease" car. When the lease was over I bought another Accord (6 cyl., 6-speed), and I was quite surprised to find that I had the same issue! In an effort to fix the issue (this car I'm going to keep), I visited several dealers, one of which told me that they would have to install a new transmission- but at my cost and not under warranty!

After perusing the Honda forums on the "interwebs" I learned this a common issue with Honda transmissions, and that the fix is to replace the OEM fluid with this GM fluid. So, after my warranty expired, one of the first things I did was change-out the fluid, and.....

What a difference! The "notch" in the 2-3 shift is GONE!

So far I have over 2K miles with this fluid, and the transmission hasn't "stumbled" once!

HIGHLY recommended for Honda/Acura vehicles with manual transmissions!

Last edited by Drew99GT; 01/20/18 10:06 AM.
Re: '09 Honda Civic Manual Trans fluid? [Re: JimmyJohns] #4640747
01/20/18 10:17 AM
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Ontario, Canada
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We keep the GM fluid in stock here at the dealer for cars that have mild syncro issues.

Personally, I use Redline MTL in mine.


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