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New tires for 2003 Suburban 1500 #4639412
01/18/18 11:42 PM
01/18/18 11:42 PM
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Florida
Fitz98 Offline OP
Fitz98  Offline OP
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Florida
I am in the market for new tires for my 2003 Suburban 2 wheel drive LT.
On my Expedition, I have had the Michelin Latitude tires, which had cracking sidewalls and failed with blowouts. I stepped up to the LTX MS/2, which have been great, but tread seems to be failing where chunks of the tread are breaking off now. I seem to get about 2-3 good years from Michelins before having breakdown issues with rubber. I am willing to give them another chance, but have read some pretty negative reviews of the new compound used on the Defender LTX M/S series, contributing to rough ride and balancing issues and Michelin themselves only give them a 5/10 rating for handling.
I am in Florida, so mostly need dry and wet handling, I tow a trailer and a boat, so need that strength, and I do a lot of highway driving, so quiet ride and good handling are important.
I will spend 2 months with it in NY in February and March, but that is the last snow it should see.
Some options I am considering based on reviews
Michelin Defender LTX M/S
Kumho Crugen HT51
General Grabber HTS 60
Bridgestone Dueler H/L Olenza Plus
Firestone Destination LE2
Price is a secondary concern, for a difference of a few hundred bucks investment vs increase performance and longevity, I will pay the extra money.
Anyone have feedback to offer on any of these tires positive or negative?
I will be happy to consider alternatives, I just don't know what they are.

Re: New tires for 2003 Suburban 1500 [Re: Fitz98] #4639452
01/19/18 12:36 AM
01/19/18 12:36 AM
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Canada
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I vote for the General Grabber. The Generals get positive reviews from what I hear. I spend a lot of time in tire shops. So I hear about the best and worst tires all the time.


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Re: New tires for 2003 Suburban 1500 [Re: Fitz98] #4639459
01/19/18 12:52 AM
01/19/18 12:52 AM
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Utah
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Utah
You are in a state where you would potentially see "Michelin Dry Rot Syndrome". Something to consider.

The General Grabber tires and Firestone Destination tires get very good reviews.

Re: New tires for 2003 Suburban 1500 [Re: Fitz98] #4639470
01/19/18 01:45 AM
01/19/18 01:45 AM
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Phoenix, AZ
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Sometimes Michelinís arenít the catís meow.


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Re: New tires for 2003 Suburban 1500 [Re: CKN] #4639587
01/19/18 07:49 AM
01/19/18 07:49 AM
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SW Florida
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SW Florida
Originally Posted By: CKN
The General Grabber tires and Firestone Destination tires get very good reviews.


This ^


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Re: New tires for 2003 Suburban 1500 [Re: Fitz98] #4639613
01/19/18 08:27 AM
01/19/18 08:27 AM
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Kevil,Ky
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Kevil,Ky
Just in the past 2 months I had Falken Wildpeak tires put on my truck. Tire store recommended them as he has had really good service from them. Tread pattern nearly identical to the Michelin. He told me these are better than the michelin since I don't put a lot of miles on and do tow my 5th wheel trailer with it. If it was his truck he would buy the Falken or the Firestone destination. The Falkens have been great. Very quiet and great traction. On wet roads there is no slippage.


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Re: New tires for 2003 Suburban 1500 [Re: Fitz98] #4639629
01/19/18 08:40 AM
01/19/18 08:40 AM
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Posts: 305
Valencia, CA
Richie Offline
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Valencia, CA
I really like Continental Tires.

Re: New tires for 2003 Suburban 1500 [Re: Fitz98] #4639671
01/19/18 09:28 AM
01/19/18 09:28 AM
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I had LTX MS2 and thought they were awful in snow. Not a problem for you I know; they were fine otherwise on pavement. I didn't like them on grass, but ok, it's a highway tire, that is par for the course. Did what I expected, right until they cracked (3yr/40k).

If you drive enough I'd be tempted go LTX, but as you mention, they like to rot it seems. But most reviews indicate that they can go to high miles. I'm not sure if LE2's work as well towards the end of their lifespans but they seemed to be a favorite runner-up. I'd weigh cost/mile and then err towards something that can be replaced every 3-4 years.

I didn't think the LTX's were going to last much longer than other tires. IMO they aren't that much better so as to demand a premium. At least in P size, maybe LT's are different.


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Re: New tires for 2003 Suburban 1500 [Re: Fitz98] #4639691
01/19/18 09:48 AM
01/19/18 09:48 AM
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Illinois
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Does the Firestone Destination still have the problem, where the tread pattern starts to vanish when they get about half worn down? If not, that would completely eliminate it from my list.



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Re: New tires for 2003 Suburban 1500 [Re: Fitz98] #4639704
01/19/18 10:02 AM
01/19/18 10:02 AM
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Northern Ontario, Canada
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Wear bars are at 2/32nds. Those tires look to be at 3/32nds. I would expect the tread pattern to "disappear" at that wear level.


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Re: New tires for 2003 Suburban 1500 [Re: Richie] #4639718
01/19/18 10:15 AM
01/19/18 10:15 AM
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NE Ohio
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NE Ohio
Originally Posted By: Richie
I really like Continental Tires.


General Tire and Continental are the same company.


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Re: New tires for 2003 Suburban 1500 [Re: knerml] #4639723
01/19/18 10:22 AM
01/19/18 10:22 AM
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Posts: 305
Valencia, CA
Richie Offline
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Valencia, CA
I was not aware of that and thanks

Originally Posted By: knerml
Originally Posted By: Richie
I really like Continental Tires.


General Tire and Continental are the same company.

Re: New tires for 2003 Suburban 1500 [Re: Fitz98] #4639741
01/19/18 10:42 AM
01/19/18 10:42 AM
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MN
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Continental LX20'S


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Re: New tires for 2003 Suburban 1500 [Re: Danno] #4639765
01/19/18 11:12 AM
01/19/18 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted By: Danno
Wear bars are at 2/32nds. Those tires look to be at 3/32nds. I would expect the tread pattern to "disappear" at that wear level.


Looks almost over-inflated, but yeah, end of life traction tends to die pretty quickly. Isn't 4/32's pretty close to the end? I've thought about taking my tires to 4/32's and then CL'ing them for whatever I could get, rather than run to the ragged end and "risk" anything.


2011 Toyota Camry, base, 2.5L/6MT, 163k, hers
2010 Toyota Tundra DC, 4.6L/6AT, 144k, ours
1999 Toyota Camry LE, 2.2L/4AT, 190k, his
Re: New tires for 2003 Suburban 1500 [Re: Fitz98] #4639795
01/19/18 11:41 AM
01/19/18 11:41 AM
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Atlanta, GA
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Atlanta, GA
My dad's 02 Suburban 1500 has those Generals on there right now. They're nice other than wearing very quickly. Has always used Bridgestone Duelers in the past. He got decent mileage out of those, and nice ride but you pay more for it.


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