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Denver and Amazon #4639075
01/18/18 06:00 PM
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Denver made the top 20 list for Amazon's 2nd Norte Americano headquarters.

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How do you feel about that?


Without data you're just another person with an opinion. W. E. Deming

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Re: Denver and Amazon [Re: Leo99] #4639083
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Originally Posted By: Leo99
How do you feel about that?


Not really sure

Re: Denver and Amazon [Re: bigj_16] #4639095
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Apple is looking for another campus site as well. Estimated around 6000 jobs for that campus.

There does seem to be a trend in jobs coming back to the USA. Not trying to be political here, just stating the obvious from all the news.

Denver should be very happy to get Amazon.


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Re: Denver and Amazon [Re: bigj_16] #4639098
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Not sure Denver has the pool of people needed to work at Amazon. Amazon puts huge duress on its employees, Denver's recreational substance association conflicts with people being pushed to their limits day in and day out.

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I see Austin, Nashville, and Raleigh as the frontrunners.

I live in the ex-urbs in Atlanta and there is no way in God's green Earth that Amazon should move out here unless they're willing to go way off the beaten path... like Tallapoosa.

Raleigh, if you get closer to the Carrboro area south of Chapel Hill would be a great fit. Between Duke, NC State, UNC Chapel Hill, and Wake Forest, they would have an incredibly strong nucleus of young talent and real estate isn't so bad if you locate ten miles away from the center of that activity.

Austin and Nashville may be even better but I'll leave it for the folks out here to comment.

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Originally Posted By: GON
Not sure Denver has the pool of people needed to work at Amazon. Amazon puts huge duress on its employees, Denver's recreational substance association conflicts with people being pushed to their limits day in and day out.

This looks like the ramblings of someone who hasn’t visited, but reads lots of things on the internet. I worked with Lockheed Martin for a short time in Colorado, and I haven’t been on a more dedicated team since. What I found most impressive was the high level of education and physical fitness of the people that I encountered during my free time.


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Re: Denver and Amazon [Re: bigj_16] #4639129
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Austin and Denver are definitely in the top 5.

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Have a Daughter, Son in law, and Grand Child in Arvada.

Bring in gambling, recreational drugs, etc, big companies slowly migrate away. My brother in law has worked at the same facility of Northrup Grumman in the NW burbs of Chicago as a EE for over 25 years. Northrup has a very good team in Chicago, but Northrop is not opening any more facilities ever in Chicago.

Just a matter of time before Denver becomes the Chicago, Baltimore, etc of the West. May be a generation or two, but it will happen. Gambling and recreation drugs are a huge long term turn off to big businesses.

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Originally Posted By: Bandito440
Originally Posted By: GON
Not sure Denver has the pool of people needed to work at Amazon. Amazon puts huge duress on its employees, Denver's recreational substance association conflicts with people being pushed to their limits day in and day out.

This looks like the ramblings of someone who hasn’t visited, but reads lots of things on the internet. I worked with Lockheed Martin for a short time in Colorado, and I haven’t been on a more dedicated team since. What I found most impressive was the high level of education and physical fitness of the people that I encountered during my free time.

GON is not referring to highly paid & educated engineers like at Lockheed-Martin.
There is a growing more youthful, "math-&-science-challenged" population in Denver that would be Amazon's low-paid labor pool. Many do drugs, and that trend is getting stronger.

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Originally Posted By: GON
Have a Daughter, Son in law, and Grand Child in Arvada.

Bring in gambling, recreational drugs, etc, big companies slowly migrate away. My brother in law has worked at the same facility of Northrup Grumman in the NW burbs of Chicago as a EE for over 25 years. Northrup has a very good team in Chicago, but Northrop is not opening any more facilities ever in Chicago.

Just a matter of time before Denver becomes the Chicago, Baltimore, etc of the West. May be a generation or two, but it will happen. Gambling and recreation drugs are a huge long term turn off to big businesses.

Illinois has very limited gambling and no legal recreational drug use. Your statements are unsupported by the data you presented.


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Re: Denver and Amazon [Re: oil_film_movies] #4639146
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Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Originally Posted By: Bandito440
Originally Posted By: GON
Not sure Denver has the pool of people needed to work at Amazon. Amazon puts huge duress on its employees, Denver's recreational substance association conflicts with people being pushed to their limits day in and day out.

This looks like the ramblings of someone who hasn’t visited, but reads lots of things on the internet. I worked with Lockheed Martin for a short time in Colorado, and I haven’t been on a more dedicated team since. What I found most impressive was the high level of education and physical fitness of the people that I encountered during my free time.

GON is not referring to highly paid & educated engineers like at Lockheed-Martin.
There is a growing more youthful, "math-&-science-challenged" population in Denver that would be Amazon's low-paid labor pool. Many do drugs, and that trend is getting stronger.





Bandito May be absolutely correct in his observations but the marijuana issue is recent history and likely did not play a part in workers drug use. That industry is also very strict on drug use.

I see it more and more in the Sea-Tac area. It is not only workers but drivers and people I casually meet in public places. They seem “elsewhere “ so to speak and their attention span is nilch.


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Re: Denver and Amazon [Re: oil_film_movies] #4639147
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Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Originally Posted By: Bandito440
Originally Posted By: GON
Not sure Denver has the pool of people needed to work at Amazon. Amazon puts huge duress on its employees, Denver's recreational substance association conflicts with people being pushed to their limits day in and day out.

This looks like the ramblings of someone who hasn’t visited, but reads lots of things on the internet. I worked with Lockheed Martin for a short time in Colorado, and I haven’t been on a more dedicated team since. What I found most impressive was the high level of education and physical fitness of the people that I encountered during my free time.

GON is not referring to highly paid & educated engineers like at Lockheed-Martin.
There is a growing more youthful, "math-&-science-challenged" population in Denver that would be Amazon's low-paid labor pool. Many do drugs, and that trend is getting stronger.

This investment is not for a distribution center. It’s for a second headquarters with just the sort skilled and educated people that I encountered.


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Re: Denver and Amazon [Re: bigj_16] #4639155
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"Illinois has very limited gambling "

You may want to do some research on this. Illinois now has legal gambling on nearly ever corner, very said to see so many store fronts now dedicated to compulsive gamblers.

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HQ2 will be for college grads not a warehouse distribution center.

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