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Fram PH6016 Filter C&P Allied Signal Vintage #4638222
01/17/18 09:56 PM
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I bought a bunch of new old stock Fram PH6016 filters cheap on ebay for my motorcycle. Most of them are of the Allied Signal vintage. I wanted to cut one open before running them to make sure they were still ok. I was actually pleasantly surprised. The filter media was in good condition and not brittle, the anti-drain back valve was still very pliable and the plastic on the pressure relief valve was not brittle. The date code is A21431










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Re: Fram PH6016 Filter C&P Allied Signal Vintage [Re: DerbyDave] #4638241
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2002 or 2012 vintage? What's the copyright date on the box? - should give a clue.

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My Bad. The newest of the lot is Allied Signal. This one is Allied Automotive. No date on the box

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Re: Fram PH6016 Filter C&P Allied Signal Vintage [Re: DerbyDave] #4638247
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Originally Posted By: DerbyDave
My Bad. The newest of the lot is Allied Signal. This one is Allied Automotive. No date on the box


Should be a copyright date somewhere on the box. Strange if there's not one.

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I am thinking 80s vintage. Allied merged and became Allied-Signal in September 1985. The box just says Allied Automotive. I have a newer but still old filter in a box marked Allied Signal. In 1999 They acquired Honeywell and took the Honeywell name.


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Re: Fram PH6016 Filter C&P Allied Signal Vintage [Re: DerbyDave] #4638257
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I have an Allied Signal Fram PH3593A. The box is in rough shape but the filter is perfect. It says Allied Signal 1994 on the box

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Re: Fram PH6016 Filter C&P Allied Signal Vintage [Re: DerbyDave] #4638260
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The newest box of the bunch and the only one that is under the Allied-Signal name is dated 1996. The older Allied Automotive boxes don't have dates


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Re: Fram PH6016 Filter C&P Allied Signal Vintage [Re: DerbyDave] #4638273
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Originally Posted By: DerbyDave
I am thinking 80s vintage. Allied merged and became Allied-Signal in September 1985. The box just says Allied Automotive. I have a newer but still old filter in a box marked Allied Signal. In 1999 They acquired Honeywell and took the Honeywell name.


So the "2" date code must be for 1992.

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1992 sounds about right based on the condition of the box it was in.


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Re: Fram PH6016 Filter C&P Allied Signal Vintage [Re: DerbyDave] #4638330
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Fram was capable of making a decent filter back then. Yet they botched the PH16 and PH8A so badly it essentially gave birth to the orange can of death phenomenon.


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Most of my engines specified PH8A or later PH16 size oil filters until I bought my current MY 2012 truck, which switched to metric thread PH2 size.


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Re: Fram PH6016 Filter C&P Allied Signal Vintage [Re: DerbyDave] #4639509
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Box looks like it's from 1989

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The baseplate inlet holes direct the flow right into the metal ring, very funny design. Fram COD evolution.

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No worries, positive displacement oil pumps.


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