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Oil Pan Heater worth it? #4638153
01/17/18 08:51 PM
01/17/18 08:51 PM
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Detroit
Kurtatron Offline OP
Kurtatron  Offline OP
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Detroit
i guess there is no study or scientific report reviewing these, but in your opinion, would these be worth the 30 or so dollars? Car in question is 1999 beater Solara with a 1MZ-FE. I guess the point is, will an oil pan heater extend the life of the car? It already has 200k miles, but I plan to go to 250k at least. The car is parked in an unheated garage where it does go below freezing. It might get to 10 degrees at the coldest. The car spent the first 12 years of its life in Florida, so cold starting wasnít as big an issue. What do you think, waste of time and money?

Re: Oil Pan Heater worth it? [Re: Kurtatron] #4638158
01/17/18 08:55 PM
01/17/18 08:55 PM
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Indiana
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Is it giving you any fits to make you want a pan heater?

10*F isn't a big deal.

I'd personally stick with a 5w30 of your choice and call it good.


03 Jeep WJ 4.0 200k Castrol Edge 10w40 HM Fram XG16
02 Volvo S60 2.4T 177k M1 0w40 Mahle OX149D
97 Chevy Blazer 4.3 149k Rotella T5 10w30 Supertech ST3980

Re: Oil Pan Heater worth it? [Re: Kurtatron] #4638160
01/17/18 08:56 PM
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OH
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Maybe a battery blanket heater for easier starts. But Detroit shouldn't be that cold esp if the car is in a garage.

Re: Oil Pan Heater worth it? [Re: Kurtatron] #4638164
01/17/18 08:57 PM
01/17/18 08:57 PM
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Ontario, Canada
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IMO a waste of money on a car, I'm sure these were originally made for equipment with 10's of gallons of expensive hydraulic fluid. I can't be bothered even to plug in my block heaters until it gets near-30C either. Unless your using 15W40 in there, your car doesn't need a pan heater. Doesn't hurt of course, but I bet you'll quite bothering to plug it in after a few cold nights too.


07 Focus ZXW, 5spd manual, 210km M1 5W30
18 Outback 2.5 CVT 10km 0W20 "bulk subaru" whatever that is
Re: Oil Pan Heater worth it? [Re: Kurtatron] #4638167
01/17/18 08:59 PM
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MTL, CANADA
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If you ever get colder than 10 F, id opt for a block heater instead. If not, probably no point. Make sure your battery is strong and in good shape. maybe a battery tender?


2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
PP 0w20 & ST 4967

Re: Oil Pan Heater worth it? [Re: Kurtatron] #4638176
01/17/18 09:08 PM
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10F? Wouldn't do anything special. I'll plug in my block heater on my Liberty if it's going to be 0F or less. Doesn't need it but it makes its life a little easier so why not...


15 Jeep KL Limited V6: Formula Shell 5W20
07 LR3 SE V8: Maxlife 5W30
05 Jeep KJ Limited: PHM 5W30
96 Jeep XJ Country: STP HM 5W30 (winter)
Re: Oil Pan Heater worth it? [Re: Kurtatron] #4638190
01/17/18 09:23 PM
01/17/18 09:23 PM
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IL
04SE Offline
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2002 1MZ-FE owner here. I have 138,000 miles on mine. I run PYB 5w30 and TG3600 filter. Car sits in heated garage (50*F) at home and in an open air parking ramp at work. Cold started at -14*F with zero issues this winter. Numerous starts at 0*F and in single digit negative temps this winter. Even with a fresh battery the car just seems to crank slow. I suspect it is just an engine/starter design as it has been this way for my almost 5 years of ownership. I have run 5w20 and synthetic 5w30 in the past 4 winters. Nothing seems to aid in cold starts and she still starts right up each time with a slight hint of power steering pump whine for about 1 second.

Your engine will go to 250,000 if you do nothing more than add gas and top the oil off.


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Re: Oil Pan Heater worth it? [Re: Kurtatron] #4638220
01/17/18 09:54 PM
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Taiwan
Ducked Offline
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Has to be a good thing. I would even arrange something here, where it never gets below freezing, but I don't have ready access to power.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthr...ing#Post4258987

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Re: Oil Pan Heater worth it? [Re: Kurtatron] #4638304
01/17/18 11:35 PM
01/17/18 11:35 PM
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Idaho
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Syn oil.


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Re: Oil Pan Heater worth it? [Re: Kurtatron] #4638307
01/17/18 11:42 PM
01/17/18 11:42 PM
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SE British Columbia, Canada
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Iím a Canuck and I use 5 F to plug in the block heater. I donít plug in above 5 F.

If I didnít plug in it would still start fine with my 5W-30 synthetic oil, but Iím trying to avoid cold- starting wear.


If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: Oil Pan Heater worth it? [Re: Kurtatron] #4638319
01/17/18 11:57 PM
01/17/18 11:57 PM
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MA
Wolf359 Offline
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Just go to a 0 weight synthetic oil. I've started my car fine in 5 degree weather. I'm using 0w40, but you could probably go lighter with 0w30.

I think you only worry when it gets really cold like down to -60 which is what the Germans were dealing with against Russia in the winter. They had to build fires under their tanks to get them started.

Re: Oil Pan Heater worth it? [Re: Kurtatron] #4638355
01/18/18 01:31 AM
01/18/18 01:31 AM
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British Columbia, Canada
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British Columbia, Canada
I had the same engine in a 2000 Solara. Kept it in an unheated garage in Edmonton which is a lot colder than Detroit. It had a block heater but I never plugged it in, not even once.

I used 5W-30 or 0W-30 syn oil. Great engine, but has a risk for sludge formation. One more reason to use syn oil and change it regularly.

My brother's ca1995 V6 Camry sludged up on a long trip. It suddenly began drinking oil. When he got home he took it to his regular garage. They took off a valve cover and advised him to trade it in. That was before the sludging problem became well known and before the (eventual) warranty extensions. He said he had changed the oil regularly, though likely using dino oil. Given the history I wonder about a plugged PCV valve or even coolant mixing with the oil (a possible blown head gasket).

Anyway, if you can avoid sludging, that engine should go for 3 or even 400,000 miles. Check your oil regularly, use synthetic oil, and change it religiously.


2000 BMW 528i 5MT
2007 Honda Accord EX-L 4Door V6 6MT
Re: Oil Pan Heater worth it? [Re: Kurtatron] #4638369
01/18/18 02:09 AM
01/18/18 02:09 AM
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Texas
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Texas
Gotta help. Probably pay for itself with better mpg and might help the engine survive a bit longer. They make timers and 4 hours electricity is all you need. But,what do I know,look where I'm from.

Re: Oil Pan Heater worth it? [Re: Kurtatron] #4638413
01/18/18 06:31 AM
01/18/18 06:31 AM
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NY
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I see zero downside.


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Re: Oil Pan Heater worth it? [Re: Kurtatron] #4638469
01/18/18 08:42 AM
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wi
dave123 Offline
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Absolutely no benifits whatsoever.

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