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#4638117 - 01/17/18 07:26 PM 5W30
mobilaltima Offline

Registered: 02/03/11
Posts: 1078
Loc: Golden Meadow, LA
I saw a post started a few days ago about cleaning oils, it got me thinking. Of the following oils which would be considered the best cleaning oil?

Castrol Edge 5W30
Pennzoil Platinum 5W30
Valvoline Syn Maxlife 5W30
M1 EP 5W30

It would be run in a 4.8 Vortec Chevy 1500 with a Fram TG10060 for 6k oci.
Also which is the thickest at operating temp?
2006 2500 Dodge 5.9 Cummins Mobil Delvac 15W40, Fleetguard Stratapore 90k miles
Early '99 F250 ECLB 7.3 Stroker, 223k miles

#4638136 - 01/17/18 07:41 PM Re: 5W30 [Re: mobilaltima]
CT8 Offline

Registered: 10/09/14
Posts: 10382
Loc: Idaho
They all have the same ratings.
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity, we shall prevail

#4638142 - 01/17/18 07:44 PM Re: 5W30 [Re: mobilaltima]
SilverFusion2010 Offline

Registered: 06/29/11
Posts: 1485
Loc: Crawfordville FL
Id run the valvoline MaxLife or the penzoil for cleaning.
2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 175k miles M1 AFE 0w-20

#4638144 - 01/17/18 07:44 PM Re: 5W30 [Re: mobilaltima]
147_Grain Offline

Registered: 03/11/13
Posts: 1951
Loc: USA
Use a standard oil with more frequent oil changes to get the engine clean.

#4638145 - 01/17/18 07:45 PM Re: 5W30 [Re: mobilaltima]
gathermewool Offline

Registered: 01/09/09
Posts: 5725
Loc: New England
You need to work on your thread titling skill.

1. What makes you think anything needs cleaning?

2. Lookup the viscosity spec online - you've been a member since 2011...
14 Forester XT Touring w/ Eyesight (her)
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Edge 0W-20 + Subie blue filter

#4638161 - 01/17/18 07:56 PM Re: 5W30 [Re: mobilaltima]
spasm3 Offline

Registered: 05/30/10
Posts: 8258
Loc: North Carolina
Mobil 1 hm claims specifically to be a cleaning oil. 12.1 cst at 100c

Edited by spasm3 (01/17/18 07:57 PM)
13 elantra 67k 5w30 QSUD
03 chevy avalanche76k synpwr 5w30
01 saturnsc1 185k synpwr rebuilt
17 mazda cx-5 1800 miles m1 0w20/0w40 mix

#4638193 - 01/17/18 08:24 PM Re: 5W30 [Re: mobilaltima]
barkingspider Offline

Registered: 12/22/13
Posts: 1933
Loc: socal
All are good oils. I would use whatever is cheapest and perhaps change the oil more often like 4-5k miles vs 6k. Dont which is the thickest at operating temp. If u want thicker, use 10w30
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#4638271 - 01/17/18 10:06 PM Re: 5W30 [Re: mobilaltima]
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Registered: 01/01/18
Posts: 361
Loc: San Antonio, TX
If the oil is any good at cleaning it'll get dark within 2000 miles. That's been my experience with VML.

#4638289 - 01/17/18 10:19 PM Re: 5W30 [Re: mobilaltima]
FermeLaPorte Offline

Registered: 07/25/17
Posts: 360
Loc: Texas (south)
Any HDEO would do a better job than normal synthetics in my opinion.

Edited by FermeLaPorte (01/17/18 10:20 PM)
Always Mobil 1
2014 1.6L Nissan Versa Sedan, 5 spd, 5k OCI.
2011 3.5L Chevrolet Impala, Automatic, 5k OCI.

#4638415 - 01/18/18 05:36 AM Re: 5W30 [Re: mobilaltima]
dnewton3 Offline

Registered: 05/14/07
Posts: 7289
Loc: Indianapolis, IN
There is absolutely no evidence that anyone can point to that would indicate what a "best" oil is ...
Not the "best" cleaning oil.
Not the "best" cold weather oil.
Not the "best" wearing oil.

Yada yada yada.

There are plenty of good oils. But no one here I know of has a shred of credible data to prove what is the "best" of anything.
The act of preventative maintenance, in and of itself, is FAR MORE important than brand/grade/base choices among lubes and filters.
- under maintaining something is akin to abuse/neglect; that can kill equipment by shortening the lifespan
- over maintaining something has never been proven to be anything but a waste of time and money

#4638420 - 01/18/18 05:46 AM Re: 5W30 [Re: dnewton3]
das_peikko Online   content

Registered: 01/01/18
Posts: 361
Loc: San Antonio, TX
Originally Posted By: dnewton3
There are plenty of good oils. But no one here I know of has a shred of credible data to prove what is the "best" of anything.

I totally agree. If people present an opinion without a shred of evidence to back it up, ban them for life!

#4638492 - 01/18/18 08:00 AM Re: 5W30 [Re: mobilaltima]
46Harry Offline

Registered: 01/08/12
Posts: 387
Loc: hawthorne, Ca.
I don't believe there is much difference in the 5W-30 oils produced by the major oil suppliers. They all have an SN rating and will give good service in engines requiring a 5W-30 oil. Change the oil at the recommended intervals and you will never know the difference between the oils.

#4638500 - 01/18/18 08:08 AM Re: 5W30 [Re: mobilaltima]
Snagglefoot Online   content

Registered: 12/31/17
Posts: 878
Loc: Alberta
I pretty much agree with that 46Harry, but you'll be upsetting the wanna-be chemists at this forum. LOL.


#4638516 - 01/18/18 08:16 AM Re: 5W30 [Re: dnewton3]
bbhero Offline

Registered: 03/20/15
Posts: 4187
Loc: Virginia
Dnewton3 you know full well this idea comes from.. Pennzoil advertising, Castrol advertising etc etc... Look at what some of these oil claim to do. That's where people get stuck on the "cleaning" or prevention aspects of oils. Now I am not saying Pennzoil or Castrol is bad for doing that. It's their job to promote their products to the market. For the record I like Castrol Ultraclean myself. But that's just a personal preference. Nothing more to it.

Edited by bbhero (01/18/18 08:17 AM)
Nissan Altima 3.5 Coupe
Federated Auto Full Synthetic 5w30 Hastings LF 240
"Treat your family like your friends and treat your friends like your family."

#4638530 - 01/18/18 08:27 AM Re: 5W30 [Re: 46Harry]
BJD78 Offline

Registered: 08/05/17
Posts: 337
Loc: Nebraska
Exactly, the way I figure is, the used vehicles I can afford to buy always have over 80K on them and some well over 100K and I tend to keep my vehicles for a long time and look for another once they get above 300K. Since I have had several vehicles go to 300K and beyond with regular oil, that is good enough for me. I would be looking to get rid of the vehicle at 300K no matter what type of oil is in the pan.
2010 Forester:122K
2009 Sonata :189K
2010 Tucson:55K

OCI 5K using cheapest dino oil I can buy,usually NAPA or TSC Travelers oil.