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5W30 #4638117
01/17/18 08:26 PM
01/17/18 08:26 PM
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Golden Meadow, LA
mobilaltima Offline OP
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I saw a post started a few days ago about cleaning oils, it got me thinking. Of the following oils which would be considered the best cleaning oil?

Castrol Edge 5W30
Pennzoil Platinum 5W30
Valvoline Syn Maxlife 5W30
M1 EP 5W30

It would be run in a 4.8 Vortec Chevy 1500 with a Fram TG10060 for 6k oci.
Also which is the thickest at operating temp?


2006 2500 Dodge 5.9 Cummins Mobil Delvac 15W40, Fleetguard Stratapore 90k miles
Early '99 F250 ECLB 7.3 Stroker, 223k miles
Re: 5W30 [Re: mobilaltima] #4638136
01/17/18 08:41 PM
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They all have the same ratings.


"Don't let your preconceived notions get in the way of facts."
Geoff Metcalf
Re: 5W30 [Re: mobilaltima] #4638142
01/17/18 08:44 PM
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Iíd run the valvoline MaxLife or the penzoil for cleaning.


2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 178k miles M1 HM 10w-30
Re: 5W30 [Re: mobilaltima] #4638144
01/17/18 08:44 PM
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Use a standard oil with more frequent oil changes to get the engine clean.

Re: 5W30 [Re: mobilaltima] #4638145
01/17/18 08:45 PM
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You need to work on your thread titling skill.

1. What makes you think anything needs cleaning?

2. Lookup the viscosity spec online - you've been a member since 2011...


'14 Forester XT (Cobb Stage 1)
Edge 0W-40 + FU filter
'15 Legacy 2.5i (OEM Stage -7)
Edge 0W-20 + FU filter
Re: 5W30 [Re: mobilaltima] #4638161
01/17/18 08:56 PM
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Mobil 1 hm claims specifically to be a cleaning oil. 12.1 cst at 100c

https://www.mobil.com/English-US/Passenger-Vehicle-Lube/pds/NAXXMobil-1-High-Mileage-Oils

Last edited by spasm3; 01/17/18 08:57 PM.

13 elantra 70k 5w30 QSUD
03 chevy avalanche79k synpwr 10w30
01 saturnsc1 185k synpwr rebuilt
17 mazda cx-5 5600 miles m1 0w30
Re: 5W30 [Re: mobilaltima] #4638193
01/17/18 09:24 PM
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All are good oils. I would use whatever is cheapest and perhaps change the oil more often like 4-5k miles vs 6k. Donít which is the thickest at operating temp. If u want thicker, use 10w30


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17 Cadillac ATS (wife)
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Re: 5W30 [Re: mobilaltima] #4638271
01/17/18 11:06 PM
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San Antonio, TX
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If the oil is any good at cleaning it'll get dark within 2000 miles. That's been my experience with VML.

Re: 5W30 [Re: mobilaltima] #4638289
01/17/18 11:19 PM
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Any HDEO would do a better job than normal synthetics in my opinion.

Last edited by FermeLaPorte; 01/17/18 11:20 PM.

Always Mobil 1
2014 1.6L Nissan Versa Sedan, 5 spd, 5k OCI.
2011 3.5L Chevrolet Impala, Automatic, 5k OCI.
Re: 5W30 [Re: mobilaltima] #4638415
01/18/18 06:36 AM
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There is absolutely no evidence that anyone can point to that would indicate what a "best" oil is ...
Not the "best" cleaning oil.
Not the "best" cold weather oil.
Not the "best" wearing oil.

Yada yada yada.


There are plenty of good oils. But no one here I know of has a shred of credible data to prove what is the "best" of anything.


The act of preventative maintenance, in and of itself, is FAR MORE important than brand/grade/base choices among lubes and filters.
- under maintaining something is akin to abuse/neglect; that can kill equipment by shortening the lifespan
- over maintaining something has never been proven to be anything but a waste of time and money
Re: 5W30 [Re: dnewton3] #4638420
01/18/18 06:46 AM
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San Antonio, TX
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Originally Posted By: dnewton3
There are plenty of good oils. But no one here I know of has a shred of credible data to prove what is the "best" of anything.


I totally agree. If people present an opinion without a shred of evidence to back it up, ban them for life!

Re: 5W30 [Re: mobilaltima] #4638492
01/18/18 09:00 AM
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I don't believe there is much difference in the 5W-30 oils produced by the major oil suppliers. They all have an SN rating and will give good service in engines requiring a 5W-30 oil. Change the oil at the recommended intervals and you will never know the difference between the oils.

Re: 5W30 [Re: mobilaltima] #4638500
01/18/18 09:08 AM
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I pretty much agree with that 46Harry, but you'll be upsetting the wanna-be chemists at this forum. LOL.

coffee


If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: 5W30 [Re: dnewton3] #4638516
01/18/18 09:16 AM
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Dnewton3 you know full well this idea comes from.. Pennzoil advertising, Castrol advertising etc etc... Look at what some of these oil claim to do. That's where people get stuck on the "cleaning" or prevention aspects of oils. Now I am not saying Pennzoil or Castrol is bad for doing that. It's their job to promote their products to the market. For the record I like Castrol Ultraclean myself. But that's just a personal preference. Nothing more to it.

Last edited by bbhero; 01/18/18 09:17 AM.

Nissan Altima 3.5 Coupe
Quaker State High Mileage 5w30 Purolator Boss 14610
"Treat your family like your friends and treat your friends like your family."
Re: 5W30 [Re: 46Harry] #4638530
01/18/18 09:27 AM
01/18/18 09:27 AM
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Exactly, the way I figure is, the used vehicles I can afford to buy always have over 80K on them and some well over 100K and I tend to keep my vehicles for a long time and look for another once they get above 300K. Since I have had several vehicles go to 300K and beyond with regular oil, that is good enough for me. I would be looking to get rid of the vehicle at 300K no matter what type of oil is in the pan.


2010 Forester:122K
2009 Sonata :189K
2010 Tucson:55K

OCI 5K using the cheapest dino oil I can buy,usually NAPA or TSC Travelers oil.

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