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New Remington 870P Police Marine Magnum #4637952
01/17/18 06:21 PM
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I just ordered a new Remington 870P Police Marine Magnum through Davidson's. They got 7 of them in this morning, and there are only 2 left as I type this. Remington only makes a couple of production runs of this gun every year. They are not regularly produced like the standard Marine Magnum. I've had an E-Mail notification with Davidson's for months on this shotgun. Today they finally got a small shipment of them. I jumped on it.

The Police Marine Magnum has all of the upgraded parts all the Police Models get. No MIM parts, polished barrel, chamber and receiver, and an all metal trigger group. The standard grade Marine Magnum is built on the Express receiver, and has an MIM extractor, and not milled, and has a Polymer trigger group. It also has a bead front sight, as opposed to the Police Marine Magnum which has fully adjustable rifle sights. It also comes with a padded Uncle Mikes sling. The Police Marine Magnum also has larger, stiffer trigger and magazine springs. The magazine spring in the Police Marine Magnum is also electroless Nickel plated to prevent rust.

It is built in the same area, and by the same people all the Police Models are built at the Ilion, New York plant. And is completely hand inspected and test fired before being boxed and shipped. The standard Marine Magnum is built on the Express assembly line. I'm excited to get this weapon, because as I mentioned they are very difficult to find. You can find a few on Gun Broker, and Guns America. But you have to be careful because while some are advertised as Police Marine Magnums, they are not. The order number must say 25047 on the end flap of the box. The standard grade Marine Magnum is order number 25012. The gun will ship tomorrow, and I should pick it up Friday, or possibly late tomorrow. I'll try to post some picks when I get it.

Re: New Remington 870P Police Marine Magnum [Re: billt460] #4637970
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Many thanks for that. Is it stainless steel?

Re: New Remington 870P Police Marine Magnum [Re: Kira] #4637984
01/17/18 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted By: Kira
Many thanks for that. Is it stainless steel?


No. The gun is Electroless Nickel Plated inside and out.

Re: New Remington 870P Police Marine Magnum [Re: Kira] #4637991
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Originally Posted By: Kira
Many thanks for that. Is it stainless steel?


Finish: Electoless Nickel not stainless.

You beat me to the punch 460.

Last edited by JohnnyJohnson; 01/17/18 06:49 PM.

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Re: New Remington 870P Police Marine Magnum [Re: billt460] #4637994
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It's kinda funny that they go to all that effort for a Police Marine Model that probably will no where near see the amount of ammo and get the beating a run of the mill Remington 870 Express will get put through.
Question is will you stomp that 870 in the mud and then pick it up and shoot it to prove that Mossberg 500 guy, you got the better gun.
I once dared a friend with a 870 that. I am a Winchester shotgun lover. I wanted to do torture tests with my Winchester Ranger 120 against his Remington 870 Express.
He declined, shut him down quick.



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Re: New Remington 870P Police Marine Magnum [Re: Panzerman] #4638046
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Originally Posted By: Panzerman
Question is will you stomp that 870 in the mud and then pick it up and shoot it to prove that Mossberg 500 guy, you got the better gun. I once dared a friend with a 870 that. I am a Winchester shotgun lover. I wanted to do torture tests with my Winchester Ranger 120 against his Remington 870 Express.
He declined, shut him down quick.


I'd take your dare and let you go first. After you picked your shotgun up out of the mud I'd laugh and walk away. There was a guy on a Ruger forum who did that with a pistol and of course made a video of it. He was not applauded.


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Re: New Remington 870P Police Marine Magnum [Re: billt460] #4638102
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Im an 870 armorer, and I have rebuilt to police standards about 75 of them. I love the 870 and know them inside and out intimately.

The receivers are all the same. Period. Police. Wingmaster. Express. All the same. The more expensive ones get a little bit more polishing and fit and finish touches, but they are the same receivers, and will build the same reliable gun.

As to a special assembly area for police shotguns, I believe that was true 10 plus years ago. After the freedom buyout, I dont think that is the case anymore.

Polymer vs steel trigger guard. They stopped using steel trigger guards on police shotguns 10 plus years ago. I would be SHOCKED if your gun came with a steel trigger guard. I would almost guarantee that it comes with a polymer trigger guard. Pictures online of that catalog number confirm my suspicions. The polymer is actually better and more durable for police use, so not all is lost. If you WANT to add the metal one for aesthetics, I still think you can buy them. You'll have to swap over your police springs, but the rest of the parts are basically the same.

Its a good gun, and its a good thing that you got exactly what you want.

Polish the chamber when you get it. Remington uses one armed monkeys in their 870 barrel operation, and even though your gun is a police model, the chamber will be garbage. Wrap steel wool around a cleaning brush and chuck it in a drill.


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Re: New Remington 870P Police Marine Magnum [Re: billt460] #4638128
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I just checked and they're all gone. 7 guns in less than 4 hours. Unbelievable. Anyway I'm glad I checked my E-Mail when I did. Hopefully it will ship tonight from Prescott and I'll have it sometime tomorrow. If it comes from their North Carolina warehouse it will be a bit longer. Especially with the Winter weather they're having.

As far as the trigger group. I don't think they were ever made from steel. All the Wingmaster and Police trigger groups were Aluminum. I know the Wingmasters still all come with Aluminum trigger groups. And as far as I know the Police 870's do as well. But the standard Marine Magnums are plastic. As I said, you have to watch what you look at online. There is a LOT of misrepresentation with these guns. The main things to look for with the Police Marine Magnum over the standard is the rifle sights, a short ribbed forend, and not checkered with the rear cutout. And the metal trigger group. And also the 25047 Order Number. You can usually see a parting line down the center of the trigger guard if it was molded. That won't be the case on a machined metallic trigger group.

Re: New Remington 870P Police Marine Magnum [Re: billt460] #4638151
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These are sharp.

I've always like them as well as the Mossberg 500 equiv.


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Re: New Remington 870P Police Marine Magnum [Re: AZjeff] #4638224
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Originally Posted By: AZjeff
Originally Posted By: Panzerman
Question is will you stomp that 870 in the mud and then pick it up and shoot it to prove that Mossberg 500 guy, you got the better gun. I once dared a friend with a 870 that. I am a Winchester shotgun lover. I wanted to do torture tests with my Winchester Ranger 120 against his Remington 870 Express.
He declined, shut him down quick.


I'd take your dare and let you go first. After you picked your shotgun up out of the mud I'd laugh and walk away. There was a guy on a Ruger forum who did that with a pistol and of course made a video of it. He was not applauded.


You wouldn't walk away. Not up in the mountains of Pennsylvania in the middle of the woods. Just saying Honor among hunters and that would be something you just would not do with a bunch of Country boys.



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Re: New Remington 870P Police Marine Magnum [Re: dlundblad] #4638394
01/18/18 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted By: dlundblad
These are sharp.

I've always like them as well as the Mossberg 500 equiv.


If this gun is the performance equivalent of my Mossberg 590 A-1 Mil-Spec, I'll be a happy camper. I have to admit I like the fact this gun is Electroless Nickel Plated, and has a steel receiver. I've always liked the 870 in any configuration for that reason. They never went to an Aluminum receiver, like so many other manufacturers have done through the years. Most notably Browning with the "new" Auto V, and the BLR line of rifles.

Re: New Remington 870P Police Marine Magnum [Re: Panzerman] #4638396
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Originally Posted By: Panzerman
Question is will you stomp that 870 in the mud and then pick it up and shoot it to prove that Mossberg 500 guy, you got the better gun.


Consumer "Torture Tests" with weapons prove about as much as arm wrestling at bars. And neither one gives me wood. I can understand it for the manufacturers. Especially when they are competing for lucrative military contracts. But 2 hairy chested, overweight, tattooed boneheads, destroying their weapons in the mud to see which one of them has the lower I.Q. isn't my thing. However, it's fun to watch on You Tube when there's nothing on but reruns.

Re: New Remington 870P Police Marine Magnum [Re: Panzerman] #4639373
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Originally Posted By: Panzerman
Originally Posted By: AZjeff
Originally Posted By: Panzerman
Question is will you stomp that 870 in the mud and then pick it up and shoot it to prove that Mossberg 500 guy, you got the better gun. I once dared a friend with a 870 that. I am a Winchester shotgun lover. I wanted to do torture tests with my Winchester Ranger 120 against his Remington 870 Express.
He declined, shut him down quick.


I'd take your dare and let you go first. After you picked your shotgun up out of the mud I'd laugh and walk away. There was a guy on a Ruger forum who did that with a pistol and of course made a video of it. He was not applauded.


You wouldn't walk away. Not up in the mountains of Pennsylvania in the middle of the woods. Just saying Honor among hunters and that would be something you just would not do with a bunch of Country boys.


You're nutz. I was born, grew up and hunted in the woods in northwestern Pa and nobody I knew would ever throw a gun in the mud for any reason ever. I am a Pa country boy, you'll have to try your crazy talk on someone else. Did you move there from West Virginia?


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Re: New Remington 870P Police Marine Magnum [Re: AZjeff] #4639533
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Originally Posted By: AZjeff
Did you move there from West Virginia?



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Them's my cuzins Bill, where'd you find their photo?? And before anyone from WV gets cross threaded understand you always have a neighboring state you joke about and WV was ours. Here in Az it's California obviously.


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