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People too lazy to clear the frost off #4637379
01/17/18 06:18 AM
01/17/18 06:18 AM
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Nebraska
BJD78 Offline OP
BJD78  Offline OP
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Nebraska
I know it is winter and with winter comes snow, ice and frost. Lately almost every day I see vehicles driving around with frost covering their entire windshield except for a little scraped out patch the size of a toaster. Then there are others are not quite as stupid or lazy and they scrape only the drivers half of the front windshield. Of course they do not clear the side or rear windows either/. I grew up in Fargo as a youngster and do not recall seeing that. I would guess that there have been many accidents caused by these morons who are too lazy to clear their vehicles of snow and ice. I would think that maybe a few of them get stopped and ticketed by police, but probably most somehow get lucky and get away with it. I would think that it is the law to remove all the frost, ice and snow that has accumulated on your vehicle before driving. This includes the roof, trunk area, hood and all lights. It is not that hard or time consuming to scrape away the frost and for light frost the washer fluid will melt it away and most rear windows have heating grids that melt frost away in a minute or 2. Why do they do this? Either too lazy or just plain do not care and they figure they are special and nothing bad will ever happen or maybe they are just morons. Whatever they are it is a very unsafe practice Anyway, I have noticed this going on a lot more this winter here in Lincoln and Omaha area.. Grrrr.... my early morning vent... time to brew some coffee


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Re: People too lazy to clear the frost off [Re: BJD78] #4637387
01/17/18 06:29 AM
01/17/18 06:29 AM
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South Carolina
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South Carolina
Ice scrapers have come a long way. It's amazing what you can get for $2. There is no excuse.




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Re: People too lazy to clear the frost off [Re: BJD78] #4637390
01/17/18 06:35 AM
01/17/18 06:35 AM
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The Motor City
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The Motor City
I sharpen mine every year. It helps a lot to keep it sharp.

Re: People too lazy to clear the frost off [Re: BJD78] #4637392
01/17/18 06:37 AM
01/17/18 06:37 AM
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Posts: 4,342
Midwest USA
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Midwest USA
Originally Posted By: BJD78
maybe they are just morons


^^^ correct conclusion ^^^



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Re: People too lazy to clear the frost off [Re: Kestas] #4637396
01/17/18 06:45 AM
01/17/18 06:45 AM
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Posts: 570
Nebraska
BJD78 Offline OP
BJD78  Offline OP
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Nebraska
I have the ones with the metal blade,they do not cost much more and last for years. The el cheapo plastic ones wear out after 1 winter or they break. Most of the time I never use a scraper for frost,the blue wiper fluid works pretty well, for heavy ice I keep a few cans of prestone ice remover around. I think I have used the ice scraper maybe once this winter, most of the time the washer fluid and defrost can handle it. It does help to switch to winter wiper blades also which work better in sub zero temps


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Re: People too lazy to clear the frost off [Re: BJD78] #4637400
01/17/18 06:48 AM
01/17/18 06:48 AM
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Oakville, Ontario
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Oakville, Ontario
What bothers me is that so many people in my area have garages full of [censored] and they park those vehicles outside and then are also too lazy to properly clean them off. If they weren't so lazy they would clean out their garage and park their cars in there and then they wouldn't even need to clean off their car after a snowfall.


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Re: People too lazy to clear the frost off [Re: BJD78] #4637404
01/17/18 06:57 AM
01/17/18 06:57 AM
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OH
grampi Offline
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OH
I'm too lazy to clean mine off, that's why I let my car warm up for 10-15 minutes, so I don't have to scrape the windows...

Re: People too lazy to clear the frost off [Re: eyeofthetiger] #4637410
01/17/18 07:04 AM
01/17/18 07:04 AM
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Northern Ontario, Canada
Danno Online content
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Northern Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: eyeofthetiger
Ice scrapers have come a long way. It's amazing what you can get for $2. There is no excuse.



I was a fleet manager for a very large fleet - 1,000s of vehicles. Our US group (10,000+ vehicles) were going through hoops to understand how to automate clearing windshields, heated nozzles, etc.
I sent a similar picture of a $2 scraper as the solution used in Canada. Let's say the reception of the idea was lukewarm.


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Re: People too lazy to clear the frost off [Re: Danno] #4637415
01/17/18 07:13 AM
01/17/18 07:13 AM
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Champlain/Hudson Valley
Kira Offline
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Champlain/Hudson Valley
I love it. A bunch of guys managing fleets of vehicles seeking a Nobel Prize winning idea for clearing a windshield!

More self-important clowns. Sorry to be so serious...but it's true.

Re: People too lazy to clear the frost off [Re: BJD78] #4637417
01/17/18 07:14 AM
01/17/18 07:14 AM
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PA,US
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PA,US
It also shows how much they care (or dont) about driving and safety. Its one thing being too lazy to clear it off, but if you don't you can't see. Maybe they used their front wipers. OK so you can see whats in front of you and nothing else. I see people that don't even bother turning on rear defrosters, or using their rear wipers on SUVs.


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Re: People too lazy to clear the frost off [Re: BJD78] #4637423
01/17/18 07:18 AM
01/17/18 07:18 AM
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Oshawa, Ontario Canada
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Oshawa, Ontario Canada
"Can't fix stupid".


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Re: People too lazy to clear the frost off [Re: BJD78] #4637437
01/17/18 07:31 AM
01/17/18 07:31 AM
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Posts: 2,324
Baltimore, MD
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Baltimore, MD
Sounds like people need a spray bottle and an alcohol solution when it's just frost.


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Re: People too lazy to clear the frost off [Re: BJD78] #4637450
01/17/18 07:46 AM
01/17/18 07:46 AM
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Posts: 7,631
Indianapolis, IN
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Indianapolis, IN
On this past Sunday on the way home from services in the morning, I came up behind a Chrysler minivan going 30mph in a 45mph zone. It was totally driving in the "middle" of the road. The road was reasonably clear; in a rural area. Probably 80% of the asphalt could be seen and the centerline paint stripe was clearly visible.

As some oncoming traffic approached, the van moved to our side, and after the cars passed us he got back to the center of the road. (argh ......)
As more cars came, he's barely clear the line and let them pass; then back to the center he went.

Eventually I honked and attempted a pass (with others behind me as well; all behind held up by this moron).

As I got beside the van, I could see nothing of the driver. As I got in front of the van, I could see that the windshield was still iced over, the wipers frozen in mid-stroke, and a small clear spot no larger than a softball, low on the windshield where the defroster was presumably struggling to do it's work. IOW - the entire vehicle was nothing but a sheet of ice and snow on all exterior windows, except for that one little spot.

If he (or she, because I have no idea who was behind the wheel), wants to die at the hand of their own stupidity, who am I to get in their way? But when they extend their moronic behavior outside their home, endangering my family and others, I take it personally. Because it is personal when someone you love dies at the hands of another thoughtless, careless, lazy, self-centered derivative of a donkey.


Some people just should not reproduce. But they do, and it makes life miserable for the rest of us.




The act of preventative maintenance, in and of itself, is FAR MORE important than brand/grade/base choices among lubes and filters.
- under maintaining something is akin to abuse/neglect; that can kill equipment by shortening the lifespan
- over maintaining something has never been proven to be anything but a waste of time and money
Re: People too lazy to clear the frost off [Re: BJD78] #4637468
01/17/18 08:00 AM
01/17/18 08:00 AM
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Orlando, FL
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Orlando, FL
I noticed this 35 years ago when I lived in Virginia.

People scrape an area about the size of a shoe box and drive very unsafe with limited visibility. frown

Re: People too lazy to clear the frost off [Re: BJD78] #4637469
01/17/18 08:00 AM
01/17/18 08:00 AM
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SE British Columbia, Canada
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SE British Columbia, Canada
In Canada, we all carry long handled ice scraper/ brushes in the foot space behind our front seats. I usually put it away in early July and put it back there again in late August, LOL.


If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
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