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Idemitsu 0W-20 GF5 #4636873
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Anyone see a VOA or any 3rd party test on this?

My buddies in Japan are running this and recommend it for my Honda.

Just trying to get an idea of what it may be closest to on the market in the US.


Thanks

UD

Last edited by UncleDave; 01/16/18 04:27 PM.

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Re: Idemitsu 0W-20 GF5 [Re: UncleDave] #4636878
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Some testing info here:

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4581865/IDEMITSU_0W-20_$2.95/jug_and_$


Five year old VOA here:

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/2921163/Idemitsu_0w-20


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Re: Idemitsu 0W-20 GF5 [Re: UncleDave] #4636886
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Thanks -I tried finding it and even used Google which usually works great - got nada -

UD


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Re: Idemitsu 0W-20 GF5 [Re: UncleDave] #4636924
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Take a look at Amazon.com and search for Idemitsu 0w-20. You should find 3 different flavors, each with a link to the manufacturerís product data sheet. Not the same as a VOA but will give you an idea of Idemitsu options.

Re: Idemitsu 0W-20 GF5 [Re: UncleDave] #4636961
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Itís my understanding that the Idemitsu made in the States is not the high moly oil they have in Japan. The one sure way to get the high moly oil is to purchase the Mazda Moly oil online which comes from Japan.


2017 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring

Valvoline Advanced Synthetic 0w20
Mobil 1 M108A EP filter

Re: Idemitsu 0W-20 GF5 [Re: PimTac] #4636982
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
Itís my understanding that the Idemitsu made in the States is not the high moly oil they have in Japan. The one sure way to get the high moly oil is to purchase the Mazda Moly oil online which comes from Japan.


Good point

I wasnt specifically looking for high moly - they didn't say that they said the 020 that meets GF5 -

UD


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Re: Idemitsu 0W-20 GF5 [Re: UncleDave] #4637003
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Originally Posted By: UncleDave
Originally Posted By: PimTac
Itís my understanding that the Idemitsu made in the States is not the high moly oil they have in Japan. The one sure way to get the high moly oil is to purchase the Mazda Moly oil online which comes from Japan.


Good point

I wasnt specifically looking for high moly - they didn't say that they said the 020 that meets GF5 -

UD



It has gotten confusing for me after they introduced their Zepro Eco Medalist. Apparently there are two kinds.


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Re: Idemitsu 0W-20 GF5 [Re: PimTac] #4637007
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
Itís my understanding that the Idemitsu made in the States is not the high moly oil they have in Japan. The one sure way to get the high moly oil is to purchase the Mazda Moly oil online which comes from Japan.


Zepro Eco Medalist with Moly is made in the U.S.

Re: Idemitsu 0W-20 GF5 [Re: UncleDave] #4637020
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and wow 38 bones for a 5er of it- seems like Mobil 1 AP whereas the regular stuff is like EP.

gonna pass on that for now and stick with the regular stuff.

amazon - good call

UD


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I bought 25 qts of it for $13. Five jugs and 5 quart bottles of it.

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Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
I bought 25 qts of it for $13. Five jugs and 5 quart bottles of it.


total steal


UD


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It would be interesting to know exactly what's in this Indiana brew, which is what you'd get here.
For what it sold for on clearance, it really wouldn't matter.
If you want high moly, Mazda's store brand would be your pick here.
One does have to wonder why most oils have gone to lower moly treat rates.
Yeah, moly is the most costly add in any oil, but are there other good reasons?


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Re: Idemitsu 0W-20 GF5 [Re: UncleDave] #4637068
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Diminishing returns I think. 50ish ppm moly seems fairly common across the major brands.


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Originally Posted By: fdcg27
It would be interesting to know exactly what's in this Indiana brew, which is what you'd get here.
For what it sold for on clearance, it really wouldn't matter.
If you want high moly, Mazda's store brand would be your pick here.
One does have to wonder why most oils have gone to lower moly treat rates.
Yeah, moly is the most costly add in any oil, but are there other good reasons?


Thereís another recent thread here that has a VOA of Zepro Eco Medalist with Moly 0w-20 from the Russian Auto Club. No guarantee this is identical to the Indiana product but with the same brand name and viscosity youíd think it would be close. This VOA shows molybdenum of >900 ppm.

Re: Idemitsu 0W-20 GF5 [Re: fdcg27] #4637078
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Originally Posted By: fdcg27
It would be interesting to know exactly what's in this Indiana brew, which is what you'd get here.
For what it sold for on clearance, it really wouldn't matter.
If you want high moly, Mazda's store brand would be your pick here.
One does have to wonder why most oils have gone to lower moly treat rates.
Yeah, moly is the most costly add in any oil, but are there other good reasons?


Got 10 quarts coming in - might just do a VOA on it to see what baseline is, but have no reason to send guess the spec sheet.

Going to run it in my ridgeline after I dump the factory fill at about 5-6K.


UD


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