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Valvoline Synpower 0W-20, 8000 mile oil? #4636040
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I drive up to 8,000 miles a year, mostly short trip with highway on the weekends. I picked up some Synpower on sale for my Corolla. I tried to find some UOAs on this oil but not much there. Is this really an "extended drain" oil? It's a full synthetic and that's what Toyota calls for in my application.

Re: Valvoline Synpower 0W-20, 8000 mile oil? [Re: Corollaman] #4636042
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It will probably be fine for 8k smile

Re: Valvoline Synpower 0W-20, 8000 mile oil? [Re: Corollaman] #4636047
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Originally Posted By: Corollaman
I drive up to 8,000 miles a year, mostly short trip with highway on the weekends. I picked up some Synpower on sale for my Corolla. I tried to find some UOAs on this oil but not much there. Is this really an "extended drain" oil? It's a full synthetic and that's what Toyota calls for in my application.


To the best of my knowledge Toyota doesn't require a Synthetic oil. They want 0w20 API SN, no other stipulations. Good for 10,000 miles with the caveat that 5w20 can be used but must be replaced at the next service interval with 0w20. This is a less stringent requirement than even GM cars which require DEXOS1. Your car will be fine. Use with confidence.


Luke
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Re: Valvoline Synpower 0W-20, 8000 mile oil? [Re: Corollaman] #4636049
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Your fine to 10k.

Re: Valvoline Synpower 0W-20, 8000 mile oil? [Re: Corollaman] #4636057
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Is your corolla the one that Toyota says can go 10k mile intervals?
Any full syn should do fine for 8k.
this guy went 11k showing wear of only about 7-8k miles.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/4634698/gonew/1/M1_0W-20_11,000_OCI_15_Corolla#UNREAD

The 2ZR-FE seems to be a very low wearing engine capable of extended drains.

Try out the valvoline and and see how u like it. It was cheap(er) anyway...
I have never tried Valvoline before and I'm fairly surprised in a good way.
Btw, doesn't the manual say 5w20 conventional is ok for 5k miles?
I'm pretty sure valvoline full syn could handle 8k no problem if Toyota says u can go 10k


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Re: Valvoline Synpower 0W-20, 8000 mile oil? [Re: Corollaman] #4636082
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I don't know why it wouldn't be, particularly in the pretty undemanding application that you have.
There's a member here who tears down engines for a living who has observed that Valvoline yields cleaner engines and lower wear than anything else, FWIW.


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Re: Valvoline Synpower 0W-20, 8000 mile oil? [Re: Corollaman] #4636180
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I don't recommend long oil change intervals. Don't have dirty oil in your car. I would change it twice a year if I was you.


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Re: Valvoline Synpower 0W-20, 8000 mile oil? [Re: FermeLaPorte] #4636190
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Originally Posted By: FermeLaPorte
I don't recommend long oil change intervals. Don't have dirty oil in your car. I would change it twice a year if I was you.


What??? Toyota recommends 1yr 10,000 mile oil changes on this vehicle.

Re: Valvoline Synpower 0W-20, 8000 mile oil? [Re: Corollaman] #4636207
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The Toyota 10k recommended OCI in every UOA I've seen (or done myself) seems absolutely feasible and with plenty of safety margin,


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Re: Valvoline Synpower 0W-20, 8000 mile oil? [Re: Corollaman] #4636254
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Use a good filter and good fuel and you should be fine. A nice highway drive once a week would help also. Think 8k can be had.


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Re: Valvoline Synpower 0W-20, 8000 mile oil? [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4636282
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It ok to continue to use 5w30 oil providing it is full syn,if 5w30 mineral oil is used it must be replaced at 5000 miles or 6 month interval with 0w20 motor oil.(2016 Toyota Camry warranty & maintenance guide pg. 56.


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Re: Valvoline Synpower 0W-20, 8000 mile oil? [Re: Corollaman] #4636313
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You can guess, or you can "know".

Guessing amounts to asking people what their emotional meter believes, mostly based on marketing dribble.
Knowing means taking a few UOAs and finding out for yourself.

For reference, I continually run 10k miles in many cars on dino lubes. I see no reason that the syn lube you inquire about would not EASILY sustain 8k miles. TBH, there really isn't anything so substantially different about any API licensed lube (spec'd for the particular application) that any brand/grade/base will make a difference in wear control. Macro data just proves this time and time again.

But I recommend you first start with a 5k mile UOA, then 7.5k miles, and you can probably get to 10k miles, and so on.

Why guess when you can "know"?

Last edited by dnewton3; 01/16/18 06:38 AM.

The act of preventative maintenance, in and of itself, is FAR MORE important than brand/grade/base choices among lubes and filters.
- under maintaining something is akin to abuse/neglect; that can kill equipment by shortening the lifespan
- over maintaining something has never been proven to be anything but a waste of time and money
Re: Valvoline Synpower 0W-20, 8000 mile oil? [Re: dnewton3] #4636318
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Originally Posted By: dnewton3
You can guess, or you can "know".
Why guess when you can "know"?

Guess requires no physical effort vs "know" (as per your take) requires not only effort but time and $ as well, hide

Re: Valvoline Synpower 0W-20, 8000 mile oil? [Re: zeng] #4636320
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Originally Posted By: zeng
Originally Posted By: dnewton3
You can guess, or you can "know".
Why guess when you can "know"?

Guess requires no physical effort vs "know" (as per your take) requires not only effort but time and $ as well, hide


Exactly. Way too many bench racers around here. Too many people are not really looking to gain knowledge or improve their understanding of product selection and applications.

They would rather blabber on and hope that some group (presumably hoping for a majority of the answers) to echo their own "feelings", rather than put effort and cash into the quest.

Bob is rolling over in his grave.


The act of preventative maintenance, in and of itself, is FAR MORE important than brand/grade/base choices among lubes and filters.
- under maintaining something is akin to abuse/neglect; that can kill equipment by shortening the lifespan
- over maintaining something has never been proven to be anything but a waste of time and money
Re: Valvoline Synpower 0W-20, 8000 mile oil? [Re: Corollaman] #4636332
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Originally Posted By: Corollaman
I drive up to 8,000 miles a year, mostly short trip with highway on the weekends. I picked up some Synpower on sale for my Corolla. I tried to find some UOAs on this oil but not much there. Is this really an "extended drain" oil? It's a full synthetic and that's what Toyota calls for in my application.


Your good to go, doesnt matter if its Syn or Conventional, as long as it meets the requirements of your engine.
Me personally, if an option would select the 5/20 or 5/30 but if not, 0/20 still fine.
Keep in mind 0/20 and 5/20 is mostly for a fraction more MPG (that you would never see) for USA vehicles.

Last edited by alarmguy; 01/16/18 07:14 AM.

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