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#4635704 - 01/15/18 12:20 PM 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver
SuzukiGoat Offline


Registered: 02/04/13
Posts: 534
Loc: Louisiana
Just picked up this little 2007 2 door hatchback with Toyota's 1.5 and auto trans. 109k miles on it.

Zero smoke or blowby.

Engine specs 5w30 down here. Same engine in my old scion and I always ran 10w40 all the way out to 230k. Being a little older and wiser. I would like to stick with a 5w30.

But... I have 200 quarts of castrol edge 10w40 HM oil.

Any harm in thinning it out with half 0w20 matching oil in each change?

Unit sees 90 miles per day. 15 miles of back roads and then all highway to work. Very little stop and go.

Also, any harm in swapping the trans over to valvoline full syn dex merc?
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#4635714 - 01/15/18 12:30 PM Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: SuzukiGoat]
Cujet Offline


Registered: 02/15/03
Posts: 7162
Loc: Jupiter, Florida
You will be just fine with the 10W-40 due to the climate there. Use it with confidence. Take a guess what oil is specified for that exact engine in Australia? Yup, 10W-40.
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#4635722 - 01/15/18 12:38 PM Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: SuzukiGoat]
thooks Offline


Registered: 11/30/05
Posts: 833
Loc: Senoia, GA
I'd find a way to get rid of the 10/40 and use the proper oil in the Yaris.

Sorry, but I know this is an oil-related forum and there's supposedly lots of knowledge here. Nonetheless, there's starting to be many oil-related problems show up in all manufacturers of engines because of all sorts of crazy stuff. High mileage oil change intervals on severe-service cars is the most. (hardened seals, leaks, etc.)

That engine and the manufacturer wanted 5w30. It's made it this long with no noticeable problems more than likely because that is what was used. I'd do what it spec'ed.

JMO

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#4635725 - 01/15/18 12:42 PM Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: SuzukiGoat]
pandus13 Offline


Registered: 08/12/11
Posts: 3201
Loc: Chicago,IL,USA
10W40, oh my the sky is falling the sky is falling.

kidding....

since you don't really get much cold, where you are (and if you do, just warm it up 1-2 minutes)

I would say you are OK for couple years.

Now, ATF, what is the color of existent, and did you see any maintenance records?
may go to the toyota site and register your VIN to see any history...

anyway, I would not "shock" the system, and go only 1 quart at the time.

I think it has to be T-WS.

Brake fluid? brake pads?
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#4635739 - 01/15/18 12:51 PM Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: SuzukiGoat]
supton Offline


Registered: 11/09/08
Posts: 11975
Loc: NH
1.5 and auto. I'd change the trans fluid because I'd be flogging it all the time. Not that Aisin trans are bad units, they seem to hold up well enough--but if it was me, I'd probably be considered "severe service".

Given the cost, I'd buy some 5W30 for winter usage. Then use up your 10W40 stash once it warms up. I doubt the car would care. Or you could see about trading oil.
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#4635740 - 01/15/18 12:52 PM Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: SuzukiGoat]
IndyIan Offline


Registered: 09/23/08
Posts: 9092
Loc: Ontario, Canada
In your climate I'd just run the 10W40 with perhaps a quart of something thinner in winter, depending on how it actually starts.
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#4635746 - 01/15/18 12:57 PM Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: SuzukiGoat]
pandus13 Offline


Registered: 08/12/11
Posts: 3201
Loc: Chicago,IL,USA
Originally Posted By: SuzukiGoat
...

Zero smoke or blowby.
...

Unit sees 90 miles per day. 15 miles of back roads and then all highway to work. Very little stop and go.

...


My guess:
-you will not see oil change color over 4-5k miles
-you will not see oil change level over 4-5k miles

you need about 3.2-3.5 qt oil. Filter is tiny.

both oil and atf have dipsticks.

also, what color is the coolant? (usually is the lifetime/100k+ toyota red)

wipers (if still original) get the toyota refils: they are pretty good for 1-1.5 years (I have salt+dust around)

wheels, TPMS: you may need to replace sensors (battery) at 11 years old....

cabin filter?

air filter?

brake fluid? brake performance?

oh, when on the highway, this little go-go-go kart is a bit more susceptible to side winds....

P.S. you can fit a washing machine with back seats down....
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#4635747 - 01/15/18 12:57 PM Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: SuzukiGoat]
SuzukiGoat Offline


Registered: 02/04/13
Posts: 534
Loc: Louisiana
It was 21 this morning with 10w40 fill and it didn't hesitate at all.

No wierd noises. No chatter.
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#4635757 - 01/15/18 01:04 PM Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: SuzukiGoat]
pandus13 Offline


Registered: 08/12/11
Posts: 3201
Loc: Chicago,IL,USA
Originally Posted By: SuzukiGoat
It was 21 this morning with 10w40 fill and it didn't hesitate at all.

No wierd noises. No chatter.

GOOD!

check your battery:
I changed mine (original) after 9 Midwest hot+cold years

I only got chatter on mine when i used some conventional 5w30 from advance.

There have been reports of 500k+miles examples on yarisworld....
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#4635768 - 01/15/18 01:15 PM Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: SuzukiGoat]
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Registered: 09/30/13
Posts: 10046
Loc: Indiana
Originally Posted By: SuzukiGoat
Just picked up this little 2007 2 door hatchback with Toyota's 1.5 and auto trans. 109k miles on it.

Zero smoke or blowby.

Engine specs 5w30 down here. Same engine in my old scion and I always ran 10w40 all the way out to 230k. Being a little older and wiser. I would like to stick with a 5w30.

But... I have 200 quarts of castrol edge 10w40 HM oil.

Any harm in thinning it out with half 0w20 matching oil in each change?

Unit sees 90 miles per day. 15 miles of back roads and then all highway to work. Very little stop and go.

Also, any harm in swapping the trans over to valvoline full syn dex merc?


Any chance this engine is used in other tropical climates? If so, I imagine 10w40 is acceptable depending on what's available.

I would use regardless. You're good down to 0*F.
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#4635773 - 01/15/18 01:25 PM Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: SuzukiGoat]
eljefino Offline


Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 32640
Loc: ME
That oil's perfect. Use it 100%. What's the point of an 11 year old beater if not to save money?

I hope you eventually find filters for a buck or so on rockauto closeout. Lots of OE and oversize options that'll fit.

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#4635785 - 01/15/18 01:36 PM Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: SuzukiGoat]
bullwinkle Offline


Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 7671
Loc: Cincinnati, OH, USA
Good news is, there's a lot of oversize filters that fit-FL-400S sizes being my personal choice (XG3600 Ultra). I wouldn't use 20 weight in it, in my experience the chains shear oil on this engine. Might turn your 10W40 into 5W30!
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#4635797 - 01/15/18 01:44 PM Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: SuzukiGoat]
kschachn Offline


Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 9413
Loc: Upper Midwest
On the other hand, I've gotten the miles I have on my ECHO using the tiny OEM Toyota filters and 0W-20 oil since about 50,000 miles. Still no appreciable consumption and no major maintenance except a new clutch about 5000 miles ago. This car has been by far the most trouble-free vehicle I have ever owned. I started using 0W-20 here in the winters and just continued year-round because it was easiest.
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#4635799 - 01/15/18 01:46 PM Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: pandus13]
SuzukiGoat Offline


Registered: 02/04/13
Posts: 534
Loc: Louisiana
Originally Posted By: pandus13
Originally Posted By: SuzukiGoat
...

Zero smoke or blowby.
...

Unit sees 90 miles per day. 15 miles of back roads and then all highway to work. Very little stop and go.

...


My guess:
-you will not see oil change color over 4-5k miles
-you will not see oil change level over 4-5k miles

you need about 3.2-3.5 qt oil. Filter is tiny.

both oil and atf have dipsticks.

also, what color is the coolant? (usually is the lifetime/100k+ toyota red)

wipers (if still original) get the toyota refils: they are pretty good for 1-1.5 years (I have salt+dust around)

wheels, TPMS: you may need to replace sensors (battery) at 11 years old....

cabin filter?

air filter?

brake fluid? brake performance?

oh, when on the highway, this little go-go-go kart is a bit more susceptible to side winds....

P.S. you can fit a washing machine with back seats down....


Already done air filter and cabin air. And belts. And the easily accessed hoses. Flushed coolant already as well. Brake fluid looks good. No tpms sensors on the base hatchback. No oil usage over 2k miles so far.
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#4635804 - 01/15/18 01:55 PM Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: SuzukiGoat]
double vanos Offline


Registered: 08/05/04
Posts: 1885
Loc: 5600 feet elevation, Arizona
Castrol makes good oil.
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