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2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver #4635704
01/15/18 01:20 PM
01/15/18 01:20 PM
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Louisiana
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Just picked up this little 2007 2 door hatchback with Toyota's 1.5 and auto trans. 109k miles on it.

Zero smoke or blowby.

Engine specs 5w30 down here. Same engine in my old scion and I always ran 10w40 all the way out to 230k. Being a little older and wiser. I would like to stick with a 5w30.

But... I have 200 quarts of castrol edge 10w40 HM oil.

Any harm in thinning it out with half 0w20 matching oil in each change?

Unit sees 90 miles per day. 15 miles of back roads and then all highway to work. Very little stop and go.

Also, any harm in swapping the trans over to valvoline full syn dex merc?


2003 Nissan Xterra 4x4 M1 HM 10w40
2001 Toyota 4runner 4x4 M1 0w40
2016 Yamaha YXZ1000R VR1 20w50

Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: SuzukiGoat] #4635714
01/15/18 01:30 PM
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You will be just fine with the 10W-40 due to the climate there. Use it with confidence. Take a guess what oil is specified for that exact engine in Australia? Yup, 10W-40.


People who count on their fingers should maintain a discreet silence.
Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: SuzukiGoat] #4635722
01/15/18 01:38 PM
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I'd find a way to get rid of the 10/40 and use the proper oil in the Yaris.

Sorry, but I know this is an oil-related forum and there's supposedly lots of knowledge here. Nonetheless, there's starting to be many oil-related problems show up in all manufacturers of engines because of all sorts of crazy stuff. High mileage oil change intervals on severe-service cars is the most. (hardened seals, leaks, etc.)

That engine and the manufacturer wanted 5w30. It's made it this long with no noticeable problems more than likely because that is what was used. I'd do what it spec'ed.

JMO

Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: SuzukiGoat] #4635725
01/15/18 01:42 PM
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10W40, oh my the sky is falling the sky is falling.

kidding....

since you don't really get much cold, where you are (and if you do, just warm it up 1-2 minutes)

I would say you are OK for couple years.

Now, ATF, what is the color of existent, and did you see any maintenance records?
may go to the toyota site and register your VIN to see any history...

anyway, I would not "shock" the system, and go only 1 quart at the time.

I think it has to be T-WS.

Brake fluid? brake pads?


16 Golf SportWagen
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08 Yaris
04 Elantra
95 accent
95 mystique
97 concorde
Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: SuzukiGoat] #4635739
01/15/18 01:51 PM
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1.5 and auto. I'd change the trans fluid because I'd be flogging it all the time. Not that Aisin trans are bad units, they seem to hold up well enough--but if it was me, I'd probably be considered "severe service".

Given the cost, I'd buy some 5W30 for winter usage. Then use up your 10W40 stash once it warms up. I doubt the car would care. Or you could see about trading oil.


2011 Toyota Camry, base, 2.5L/6MT, 163k, hers
2010 Toyota Tundra DC, 4.6L/6AT, 144k, ours
1999 Toyota Camry LE, 2.2L/4AT, 190k, his
Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: SuzukiGoat] #4635740
01/15/18 01:52 PM
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In your climate I'd just run the 10W40 with perhaps a quart of something thinner in winter, depending on how it actually starts.


07 Focus ZXW, 5spd manual, 210km M1 5W30
18 Outback 2.5 CVT 10km 0W20 "bulk subaru" whatever that is
Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: SuzukiGoat] #4635746
01/15/18 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: SuzukiGoat
...

Zero smoke or blowby.
...

Unit sees 90 miles per day. 15 miles of back roads and then all highway to work. Very little stop and go.

...


My guess:
-you will not see oil change color over 4-5k miles
-you will not see oil change level over 4-5k miles

you need about 3.2-3.5 qt oil. Filter is tiny.

both oil and atf have dipsticks.

also, what color is the coolant? (usually is the lifetime/100k+ toyota red)

wipers (if still original) get the toyota refils: they are pretty good for 1-1.5 years (I have salt+dust around)

wheels, TPMS: you may need to replace sensors (battery) at 11 years old....

cabin filter?

air filter?

brake fluid? brake performance?

oh, when on the highway, this little go-go-go kart is a bit more susceptible to side winds....

P.S. you can fit a washing machine with back seats down....


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13 Mazda5
08 Yaris
04 Elantra
95 accent
95 mystique
97 concorde
Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: SuzukiGoat] #4635747
01/15/18 01:57 PM
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It was 21 this morning with 10w40 fill and it didn't hesitate at all.

No wierd noises. No chatter.


2003 Nissan Xterra 4x4 M1 HM 10w40
2001 Toyota 4runner 4x4 M1 0w40
2016 Yamaha YXZ1000R VR1 20w50

Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: SuzukiGoat] #4635757
01/15/18 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted By: SuzukiGoat
It was 21 this morning with 10w40 fill and it didn't hesitate at all.

No wierd noises. No chatter.

GOOD!

check your battery:
I changed mine (original) after 9 Midwest hot+cold years

I only got chatter on mine when i used some conventional 5w30 from advance.

There have been reports of 500k+miles examples on yarisworld....


16 Golf SportWagen
13 Mazda5
08 Yaris
04 Elantra
95 accent
95 mystique
97 concorde
Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: SuzukiGoat] #4635768
01/15/18 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: SuzukiGoat
Just picked up this little 2007 2 door hatchback with Toyota's 1.5 and auto trans. 109k miles on it.

Zero smoke or blowby.

Engine specs 5w30 down here. Same engine in my old scion and I always ran 10w40 all the way out to 230k. Being a little older and wiser. I would like to stick with a 5w30.

But... I have 200 quarts of castrol edge 10w40 HM oil.

Any harm in thinning it out with half 0w20 matching oil in each change?

Unit sees 90 miles per day. 15 miles of back roads and then all highway to work. Very little stop and go.

Also, any harm in swapping the trans over to valvoline full syn dex merc?


Any chance this engine is used in other tropical climates? If so, I imagine 10w40 is acceptable depending on what's available.

I would use regardless. You're good down to 0*F.


03 Jeep WJ 4.0 200k Castrol Edge 10w40 HM Fram XG16
02 Volvo S60 2.4T 177k M1 0w40 Mahle OX149D
97 Chevy Blazer 4.3 149k Rotella T5 10w30 Supertech ST3980

Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: SuzukiGoat] #4635773
01/15/18 02:25 PM
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That oil's perfect. Use it 100%. What's the point of an 11 year old beater if not to save money?

I hope you eventually find filters for a buck or so on rockauto closeout. Lots of OE and oversize options that'll fit.

Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: SuzukiGoat] #4635785
01/15/18 02:36 PM
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Good news is, there's a lot of oversize filters that fit-FL-400S sizes being my personal choice (XG3600 Ultra). I wouldn't use 20 weight in it, in my experience the chains shear oil on this engine. Might turn your 10W40 into 5W30!


06 Ram 3500 CTD 4X4(FG Venturi), 93 GMC C3500 6.2, 89 F-450 7.3, 98 XJ 4.0(XG8A), 05 xB(XG3600), 18 Transit 3.7, 03 Merc Grand Marquis 4.6 2V(XG2)
Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: SuzukiGoat] #4635797
01/15/18 02:44 PM
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On the other hand, I've gotten the miles I have on my ECHO using the tiny OEM Toyota filters and 0W-20 oil since about 50,000 miles. Still no appreciable consumption and no major maintenance except a new clutch about 5000 miles ago. This car has been by far the most trouble-free vehicle I have ever owned. I started using 0W-20 here in the winters and just continued year-round because it was easiest.


1994 BMW 530i, 228K
1996 Honda Accord, 263K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 400K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 271K
Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: pandus13] #4635799
01/15/18 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted By: pandus13
Originally Posted By: SuzukiGoat
...

Zero smoke or blowby.
...

Unit sees 90 miles per day. 15 miles of back roads and then all highway to work. Very little stop and go.

...


My guess:
-you will not see oil change color over 4-5k miles
-you will not see oil change level over 4-5k miles

you need about 3.2-3.5 qt oil. Filter is tiny.

both oil and atf have dipsticks.

also, what color is the coolant? (usually is the lifetime/100k+ toyota red)

wipers (if still original) get the toyota refils: they are pretty good for 1-1.5 years (I have salt+dust around)

wheels, TPMS: you may need to replace sensors (battery) at 11 years old....

cabin filter?

air filter?

brake fluid? brake performance?

oh, when on the highway, this little go-go-go kart is a bit more susceptible to side winds....

P.S. you can fit a washing machine with back seats down....


Already done air filter and cabin air. And belts. And the easily accessed hoses. Flushed coolant already as well. Brake fluid looks good. No tpms sensors on the base hatchback. No oil usage over 2k miles so far.


2003 Nissan Xterra 4x4 M1 HM 10w40
2001 Toyota 4runner 4x4 M1 0w40
2016 Yamaha YXZ1000R VR1 20w50

Re: 2007 Yaris Hatchback. No more 14mpg daily driver [Re: SuzukiGoat] #4635804
01/15/18 02:55 PM
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Castrol makes good oil.


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