Recent Topics
Re-using building materials esp nails
by andyd
06/18/18 08:57 AM
Central A/C [censored] out
by TOMJ
06/18/18 08:43 AM
08 Scion tC under valve cover pics
by Highboy
06/18/18 08:39 AM
Storing extension ladded in garage?
by maverickfhs
06/18/18 08:27 AM
Do you let your tool batteries go dead in storage
by Snagglefoot
06/18/18 07:20 AM
Any news on what happened to this plane?
by Exhaustgases
06/18/18 02:36 AM
E4OD fluid ?
by Exhaustgases
06/18/18 02:23 AM
Update password ?
by meadows
06/17/18 11:59 PM
Delayed Sleep Phase Disorder
by Reddy45
06/17/18 11:56 PM
Nissan DLR put 0w20 in car that specs 5w30. worry?
by CrAlt
06/17/18 10:40 PM
revive Nicd battery
by Donald
06/17/18 10:27 PM
Need help finding an apartment for friend
by RazorsEdge
06/17/18 10:07 PM
ceratec with redline 5w30?
by 08z06
06/17/18 09:53 PM
does your COMCAST modem have weak wifi??
by edwardh1
06/17/18 09:50 PM
I hate stuck thermostats
by jakewells
06/17/18 09:49 PM
Mag1 75w90
by SavagePatch
06/17/18 09:32 PM
Old batteries at HD
by bbhero
06/17/18 09:27 PM
Buying a CPO Toyota - still get inspected?
by Parlay_Slow
06/17/18 09:08 PM
Water Pump Paper Gasket With RTV? Longevity?
by nobb
06/17/18 08:22 PM
Who makes Briggs & Stratton oil?
by spk2000
06/17/18 08:13 PM
Newest Members
WtsTacoma01, Orion62, Revd, blinky1041, mostdecent
65262 Registered Users
Who's Online
93 registered (4WD, Artem, Astro14, Backwoods41695, badtlc, AndyB, 7 invisible), 1525 Guests and 35 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
65262 Members
67 Forums
285515 Topics
4764907 Posts

Max Online: 3590 @ 01/24/17 08:07 PM
Donate to BITOG
Topic Options
#4635407 - 01/15/18 07:00 AM Great lakes shipping coming to a crawl
Papa Bear Offline


Registered: 08/11/05
Posts: 7046
Loc: Leamington, ON, Canada ..... r...
http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-83.7/centery:43.2/zoom:7

Pushing ice getting to port is getting difficult. The icebreakers are working hard.
Most freighters are in their winter quarters by now wink2

http://www.boatnerd.com/
http://www.boatnerd.com/layup/layup17-18.htm

(I live in Leamington ON right between Detroit & Cleveland where the little blue dot "Pelle Islander" is docked)
http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-82.0/centery:42.0/zoom:9
_________________________
2016 Dodge GC Deep Cherry
2013 SYM Wolf Classic
2011 Suzuki S40
https://www.hogsforhospice.com/

Friend of Bill W. since '89


Top
#4635441 - 01/15/18 07:56 AM Re: Great lakes shipping coming to a crawl [Re: Papa Bear]
Snagglefoot Offline


Registered: 12/31/17
Posts: 1684
Loc: Alberta
Very cool App. Thanks for sharing. Is it normal for the ice breakers to go all winter.?

Top
#4635489 - 01/15/18 08:38 AM Re: Great lakes shipping coming to a crawl [Re: Papa Bear]
doitmyself Offline


Registered: 06/03/02
Posts: 6213
Loc: MI
Cool stuff Papa Bear. Thank you.

Shipping that has to go through the Soo Locks ends by early December most years. It starts back up in March. They tried winter shipping a few times. It is fun seeing the ice breakers work the channel.

I started my career (1977) working about 16 miles south of the Soo. My workplace was on the St. Marys River shipping lane and we lived on the banks of the shipping lane within walking distance of the Neebish Island "rock cut", a VERY narrow passage for the ships going southbound. I assisted on a winter navigation study those years to determine the effects of winter shipping on the river ecology. Checking gill nets set below the ice via snow mobile travel was a very Marlin Perkins type experience (only the old guys will remember this reference).

A recent thread about living near attractions asked if you become desensitized to the exposure. While I never tired of seeing the ships so close, after a few years you do take it for granted somewhat.

About once a year, a ship would miss the turn into the rock cut and get stuck. Getting them unstuck took a bit more than calling AAA, LOL.


The Neebish Island Rock Cut is on the left side where it turns at 45 degrees (near the faint compass circle).





Top
#4635504 - 01/15/18 08:49 AM Re: Great lakes shipping coming to a crawl [Re: Papa Bear]
LeakySeals Offline


Registered: 02/18/11
Posts: 6561
Loc: Hudson, NH
If the lakes completely freeze over, does Buffalo get a break from snow?
_________________________
06 Escalade 6.0L AWD 160k. M1 5w30 Fram TG
03 Maxima 3.5L 149k ST HM 10w30

Top
#4635516 - 01/15/18 08:58 AM Re: Great lakes shipping coming to a crawl [Re: LeakySeals]
doitmyself Offline


Registered: 06/03/02
Posts: 6213
Loc: MI
No, the Buffalo Bill's 17 year drought is not tied to winter lake conditions. LOL

Top
#4635534 - 01/15/18 09:16 AM Re: Great lakes shipping coming to a crawl [Re: Papa Bear]
Kestas Offline



Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 12322
Loc: The Motor City
Ice jams in the St. Clair river are causing localized flooding in the area. The US and Canadian Coast Guard are sending ice cutters to break them up and to break up the bigger chunks that can be a problem.

I just checked the satellite maps, and the lakes still aren't frozen over. The lake effect snow machine is still going strong.

Top
#4635551 - 01/15/18 09:27 AM Re: Great lakes shipping coming to a crawl [Re: Kestas]
Kira Offline


Registered: 08/19/10
Posts: 5203
Loc: Champlain/Hudson Valley
I've been to Whitefish Point, MI. It was cool to see the large ships exiting the lock and vanishing to the NW.

Top
#4635681 - 01/15/18 12:01 PM Re: Great lakes shipping coming to a crawl [Re: Papa Bear]
Donald Offline


Registered: 03/21/04
Posts: 20446
Loc: Upstate NY
It's winter, things like fresh water lakes freeze.
_________________________
2015 Subaru Forester 2.5 engine/CVT
2015 Ford F250 w/Powerstroke
2016 Subaru Crosstrek CVT (wife's)


Top
#4635709 - 01/15/18 12:25 PM Re: Great lakes shipping coming to a crawl [Re: Donald]
andyd Offline


Registered: 09/25/04
Posts: 7128
Loc: Marshfield , MA
Is the Hudson open to Albany still?
_________________________
'16 Camry LE STP synth 0w20 and STP filter. the Fridge

1994 Ranger ,the Rat, 5w30 dino, STP filter

'16 Camry SE, Valvoline HM 0w20 and OEM filter
Thick oil is better grin2

Top
#4635786 - 01/15/18 01:36 PM Re: Great lakes shipping coming to a crawl [Re: doitmyself]
Virtus_Probi Offline


Registered: 06/25/15
Posts: 3966
Loc: New England
Originally Posted By: doitmyself
Cool stuff Papa Bear. Thank you.

Shipping that has to go through the Soo Locks ends by early December most years. It starts back up in March. They tried winter shipping a few times. It is fun seeing the ice breakers work the channel.

I started my career (1977) working about 16 miles south of the Soo. My workplace was on the St. Marys River shipping lane and we lived on the banks of the shipping lane within walking distance of the Neebish Island "rock cut", a VERY narrow passage for the ships going southbound. I assisted on a winter navigation study those years to determine the effects of winter shipping on the river ecology. Checking gill nets set below the ice via snow mobile travel was a very Marlin Perkins type experience (only the old guys will remember this reference).

A recent thread about living near attractions asked if you become desensitized to the exposure. While I never tired of seeing the ships so close, after a few years you do take it for granted somewhat.


Marlin would have sent Jim Fowler down to check the nets while he stayed warm in the Land Rover...
_________________________
2014 Forester XT, 80500 miles
Last Change;
Valvoline Full Synthetic 5W30 d1G2
Tokyo Roki 15208AA170 filter

Top
#4635865 - 01/15/18 03:05 PM Re: Great lakes shipping coming to a crawl [Re: LeakySeals]
NateDN10 Offline


Registered: 01/10/10
Posts: 1734
Loc: Rochester, NY
Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
If the lakes completely freeze over, does Buffalo get a break from snow?

Yes. Even as the lakes get colder the intensity of lake effect snow diminishes.
_________________________
2016 Mazda3 - 15,000 mi.
2011 Toyota Sienna - 91,000 mi.

Top