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Artificial Intelligence coming for your job... #4635377
01/15/18 05:58 AM
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ZZman Offline OP
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It is getting scary folks... When they become self aware watch out!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/reading-robots-beat-humans-in-stanford-test/ar-AAuI7Q0

Re: AI coming for your job... [Re: ZZman] #4635386
01/15/18 06:18 AM
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Yup and its only the beginning.
Artificial intelligence is more scary, we may get to the point one day, where "they" think we are the virus and decide to get rid of us OR they do it with some less then nice people.
Lots of power and you can bet, everyone is trying to get their hands on it.

Right now we have quantum computers, deep under ground, teaching other quantum computers (programming them) and we do not fully understand the process and how the computers are doing it.

The top of the top tech people in this world (microsoft, apple, cisco type companies), even have said, they are surprised that the public is not showing more concern.
Concerned is correct, even reckless, we have allowed them and their companies into our lives, our homes in the forms of cameras, Amazon and Google assistants controlling everything we do, recording everything we say to them, cell phones know our locations every second of the day.

Heck I bet 95% or more of the public isnt even aware anyone with your gmail account information can look up where you and your Android phone has been since the day you signed up for that gmail account (unless you turned it off) by location, exact time and date. You can even search for the exact dates and times. All you have to do is log into your account and go to locations.
Tell someone you went some place but went some place else ?? *LOL* Your gmail account has exactly where you were at that time and day.

We give up our freedom and privacy for "free" stuff. We will do anything lazy, fat and dumb so we dont have to get off our butts to turn on the alarm system, or turn off the lights or adjust the thermostat or close the blinds or lock the doors or look up the weather so we allow google or Amazon to put a speaker in our homes at almost no cost and allow them access to everything that goes on in our homes and they are selling like crazy!
Good god ! *LOL* :o)

Last edited by alarmguy; 01/15/18 06:32 AM.

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Re: AI coming for your job... [Re: ZZman] #4635401
01/15/18 06:54 AM
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We are near the top of the bell shaped curve from the past vs the future. Tools have and are a great thing and have improved humanity. But we are at a point they will slowly start replacing humans which will lead to more unemployment. It's a catch 22 because you need people to work that can spend money to buy goods and services. The get educated excuse is meaningless as we could get to a point that few humans are needed to make things run in the world. It will be needed at first and those with such skills will make out.
To a point AI has and can further benefit humanity, but it can go too far which I'm betting it will which will put us slowly down the other side of the bell shaped curve.


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Re: AI coming for your job... [Re: ZZman] #4635444
01/15/18 07:59 AM
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May I suggest the Netflix movie, The Circle. It will give you a new perspective on AI.

SF


If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: AI coming for your job... [Re: alarmguy] #4635449
01/15/18 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted By: alarmguy

Heck I bet 95% or more of the public isnt even aware anyone with your gmail account information can look up where you and your Android phone has been since the day you signed up for that gmail account (unless you turned it off) by location, exact time and date. You can even search for the exact dates and times. All you have to do is log into your account and go to locations.
Tell someone you went some place but went some place else ?? *LOL* Your gmail account has exactly where you were at that time and day.


Would you care to explain this further? Never knew about this. I can't find locations in my gmail. thanks


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Re: AI coming for your job... [Re: ZZman] #4635451
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You'll still need plenty of people in the meantime to design, build, code and repair robots.

Re: AI coming for your job... [Re: bmwpowere36m3] #4635482
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Originally Posted By: bmwpowere36m3
You'll still need plenty of people in the meantime to design, build, code and repair robots.


Nope. Only a select few.

What is everyone else going to be doing?


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Re: AI coming for your job... [Re: ZZman] #4635508
01/15/18 08:53 AM
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There are several metallurgical coal mines a few hours away. They have the super large coal trucks being driven by folks who make about $60,000 to $80,000 per year. The local community college has a course on getting certified to operate the trucks. The course costs about $4500. Funny thing is, all the newer trucks are equipped to become autonomous, with no drivers. The company is in discussions with the unions about how and when they flip the controls over to the computer. The union is fighting back of course, but it's inevitable. Rumors are, they will start retiring the older drivers, and not re-hire.


If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: AI coming for your job... [Re: Linctex] #4635530
01/15/18 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted By: Linctex
Originally Posted By: bmwpowere36m3
You'll still need plenty of people in the meantime to design, build, code and repair robots.


Nope. Only a select few.

What is everyone else going to be doing?


Sure, at some future point.... maybe. In the near-term there will still be a lot of human involvement. Someone posted on the forum, regarding their job experience, where a robot replaced a worker and then required two higher skilled employees to maintain it.

Re: AI coming for your job... [Re: ZZman] #4635533
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The master plan is to have roughly half a billion people for the whole world population. With that in mind, the race to develop a functional AI, which doesn't necessarily mean self aware, makes a whole lot more sense, along with other things.


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Re: AI coming for your job... [Re: ZZman] #4635558
01/15/18 09:30 AM
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I hope I can afford to buy a couple robots. Maybe I can travel while they earn income for me smile

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Re: AI coming for your job... [Re: ZZman] #4635570
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AI is a good thing for a better society.

Re: AI coming for your job... [Re: ZZman] #4635578
01/15/18 09:55 AM
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Automation has been after my current job for decades, yet it's still not self sufficient?

Maybe given time


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Re: AI coming for your job... [Re: Linctex] #4635593
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Originally Posted By: Linctex
Originally Posted By: bmwpowere36m3
You'll still need plenty of people in the meantime to design, build, code and repair robots.


Nope. Only a select few.

What is everyone else going to be doing?


Yes the one's that are not willing to go back to school and retrain. Been there done that. No one else wanted to be bothered. I kept working and they got laid off.

Last edited by JohnnyJohnson; 01/15/18 10:22 AM.

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Re: AI coming for your job... [Re: Mr Nice] #4635629
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Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
AI is a good thing for a better society.

How so?

They do have advantages, such as robotic equipment being used in surgery, manufacturing, etc.

What happens when a robot screws up due to a software glitch? Who is liable? If a robot replaces your job it won't be earning you money while you sit home, the company will own it.

While I think these are a long way off, they will only further separate the 1% and the 99%.

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