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Fram EG with silicone ADBV pics #4635083
01/14/18 08:57 PM
01/14/18 08:57 PM
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Clermont, Florida
Jimmy9190 Offline OP
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There is a thread on these new EG filters here:

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4538337/1

I did not want to open a 4 month old post so I made this new one. I found the new Fram PH7317 for my Honda at Rural King today, it is the first I have seen of the orange can with a silicone ADBV. Cost is $3.99.



The box says it has "New Improved Protection" and "Extended Performance":



They also had the TG and Ultra, either one for $7.99:



They had Prime Guard filters for $1.99 each but not as big a selection as they had in Fram, and they had a few AC Delco filters too. I was glad to finally find my PH7317 with a silcone ADBV and at a great price too.

My wife and I had to stop by Walmart on the way home and out of curiosity I checked the oil filters there, none of the orange Frams had the new ADBV yet. In fact, their selection was pretty bare, not many orange Frams on the shelf at all. Maybe they are trying to sell off all their old stock before putting these new ones out. If that really is what WM is doing, I bet the price will go up higher than their current $3.77.

I am glad to see these new EG Fram filters available now. Hopefully they will be in all stores soon. I have no idea why my pics are sideways here, I tried to correct it, no joy.






Jimmy9190
2013 Honda Civic LX Sedan
Supertech Synthetic 0W20
Fram PH7317
Re: Fram EG with silicone ADBV pics [Re: Jimmy9190] #4635100
01/14/18 09:09 PM
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Thanks for the post. Interesting that the TG and Ultra are same price.

I wonder if the "old" Extra Guard will go on clearance at Walmart?
If they go for $1, I will grab some just for the heck of it.

Is that oil some of the $2/qt oil?


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Re: Fram EG with silicone ADBV pics [Re: Jimmy9190] #4635112
01/14/18 09:16 PM
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Houston area stores are still selling the Extra Guards with Nitrile ADBVs. Thanks for the post.


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Re: Fram EG with silicone ADBV pics [Re: blupupher] #4635150
01/14/18 09:43 PM
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Clermont, Florida
Jimmy9190 Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: blupupher
Thanks for the post. Interesting that the TG and Ultra are same price.

I wonder if the "old" Extra Guard will go on clearance at Walmart?
If they go for $1, I will grab some just for the heck of it.

Is that oil some of the $2/qt oil?


Yeah, it was $2.19 per quart for the Harvest King synthetic. $12.75 is not bad at all for a synthetic oil change and filter with good media and a silicone ADBV.


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2013 Honda Civic LX Sedan
Supertech Synthetic 0W20
Fram PH7317
Re: Fram EG with silicone ADBV pics [Re: Jimmy9190] #4635199
01/14/18 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted By: Jimmy9190
I have no idea why my pics are sideways here, I tried to correct it, no joy


They are sideways on my laptop running Win 7,
but straight on my iPhone with Safari...?!?!?


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Fram EG with silicone ADBV pics [Re: Jimmy9190] #4635239
01/14/18 11:55 PM
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Haven't been able to figure out the sideways pic thing either.

Once the silicone EG comes here I think I might run those. I presume it'd be the same ADBV design as the TG?


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Re: Fram EG with silicone ADBV pics [Re: Jimmy9190] #4635249
01/15/18 12:12 AM
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Wal-Mart stores in this area have the new design Extra Guard with silicone ADBV for most applications, though there are some older ones left on the shelf selling at the same price so buyer beware. Just look for new packaging and double check the box contents. I noticed the packaging now mentions extended service intervals and I don't think it says anything about 5,000 miles any more (which makes sense with many cars now pushing extended intervals - especially those with oil life monitors).

The silicone ADBV improves the value of the Extra Guard by addressing the biggest drawback to most cheaper filters. Not all stores carry the Tough Guard filters and the prices on Tough Guards recently went up so I'm glad to see these changes to the Extra Guard. I have considered switching to the Extended Guard, but can't go past 7,500 miles while under warranty so it is hard to justify the extra cost.

Re: Fram EG with silicone ADBV pics [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4635255
01/15/18 12:21 AM
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Yeah it should be... I have gotten two Fram extra guard filters with the silicone ADBV. The price gas not changed. $3.77 for the 7317 and $4.64 for the 6607. The orange can will be my oil filter I am running with most of the time going forward. The STP XL filters or the Wix filters I get with oil change deals will be used for the lady's Camry or friends vehicles that I change the oil in.


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Re: Fram EG with silicone ADBV pics [Re: Jimmy9190] #4635282
01/15/18 01:16 AM
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I saw EGs at Walmart with a gray colored ADBV. Wondering if those are also silicone - I'd think so. Anyone else see the gray ADBV?

Re: Fram EG with silicone ADBV pics [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4635310
01/15/18 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted By: HoosierJeeper
Once the silicone EG comes here I think I might run those. I presume it'd be the same ADBV design as the TG?


I don't think they'll ever be my first choice.

"Yeah, the EG is good - - -
but for just a couple dollars more......."


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Fram EG with silicone ADBV pics [Re: Jimmy9190] #4635318
01/15/18 03:05 AM
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good for fram, now put in metal end cap while at it, then that would be a solid oil filter for the price. Thank for pix op


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Re: Fram EG with silicone ADBV pics [Re: MetalSlug] #4635542
01/15/18 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted By: MetalSlug
good for fram, now put in metal end cap while at it, then that would be a solid oil filter for the price. Thank for pix op

No, please don't! Rigid metal end caps + paper media = Tearolator!


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Re: Fram EG with silicone ADBV pics [Re: Jimmy9190] #4635561
01/15/18 10:33 AM
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The pic is sideways because its not a perfect square box. Tall rectangles taken from a phone rotate sideways for some reason. I just bought a TG for the truck. The TG was $6.64, the XG is 8.97. It would appear prices are set by location and the filter model. (not all XG or TG are the same price)


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Re: Fram EG with silicone ADBV pics [Re: Jimmy9190] #4635927
01/15/18 05:28 PM
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I have it on pretty good authority that Jan 1 everything was switched over, so the pipe line should be filling up pretty soon...


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Re: Fram EG with silicone ADBV pics [Re: LeakySeals] #4635933
01/15/18 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
Originally Posted By: MetalSlug
good for fram, now put in metal end cap while at it, then that would be a solid oil filter for the price. Thank for pix op

No, please don't! Rigid metal end caps + paper media = Tearolator!
That would be the (now discontinued) Frampion lines such as Carquest Blue and Mobil 1 (before the "A" suffix was added)-great filters, but no longer made with the breakup of Fram & Champion.


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