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Fake SMS Alert Hawaii Missile Warning #4634283
01/14/18 09:01 AM
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LoneRanger Offline OP
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Do people really rely solely upon SMS text on their phone and not verify through other sources? For something as big as that, I would have thought more people would've sought to confirm it before freaking out.



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Re: Fake SMS Alert Hawaii Missile Warning [Re: LoneRanger] #4634285
01/14/18 09:04 AM
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For many younger people (say 30 and below) their only source of info is their phone, so if a message pops up on it, it is going to be believed.

Re: Fake SMS Alert Hawaii Missile Warning [Re: LoneRanger] #4634286
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Was it a text or an alert? An alert on the phone is something to worry about IMO.

iPhone for example gets locally issued alerts for say missing people, tornado warnings etc.


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Re: Fake SMS Alert Hawaii Missile Warning [Re: LoneRanger] #4634293
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LoneRanger Offline OP
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Either way, even though this incident was apparently an alert from Hawaii EMA that was accidentally sent, *anything cyber* can be manipulated and faked/pranked by hackers with appropriate skills. My first thought when hearing of it was it was a hacked alert. Hawaii EMA surely is tied in to FEMA and military real time info feeds, so how was this not immediately debunked within a matter of minutes?

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Re: Fake SMS Alert Hawaii Missile Warning [Re: LoneRanger] #4634294
01/14/18 09:12 AM
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If nothing else, I think this was a good test for them, they should be grateful for the opportunity to understand how ill prepared they are.

Re: Fake SMS Alert Hawaii Missile Warning [Re: LoneRanger] #4634298
01/14/18 09:16 AM
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What little I read on it it WAS NOT an SMS,

It was an emergency alert the same as you would receive (if enabled) an Amber Alert or Weather Alert.

It also wasn’t a “fake”, it was an accident.


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Re: Fake SMS Alert Hawaii Missile Warning [Re: Mackelroy] #4634303
01/14/18 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted By: Mackelroy
If nothing else, I think this was a good test for them, they should be grateful for the opportunity to understand how ill prepared they are.


I agree completely.

The Military and Police practice all the time.


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Re: Fake SMS Alert Hawaii Missile Warning [Re: LoneRanger] #4634312
01/14/18 09:36 AM
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With how fast a missile travels, you really don't have any time to verify the authenticity of the alert. Your best bet is to take it as a legitimate threat and do what you can to have the best personal outcome.

On most Android phones, you can turn off Amber, Extreme and Severe alerts if you wish.
I personally only have Extreme alerts enabled. I don't need to get woke up with an Amber alert to look for a beige Buick plate number 90210
that has an Alzheimers patient driving around.


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Re: Fake SMS Alert Hawaii Missile Warning [Re: LoneRanger] #4634315
01/14/18 09:40 AM
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Nope and thankfully they have the alert system available to Android and Apple iOS. The old method was that tone on TV and radio and a voice recording this is an emergency alert. Since fewer folks use radio/TV they added function to smartphones.

I am unclear if radio/TV got the same message but guessing yes.

Re: Fake SMS Alert Hawaii Missile Warning [Re: LoneRanger] #4634324
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And I also wonder if anyone took it seriously, thought they were going to die and said, honey we are on the beach, why don't we go out with a bang


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Re: Fake SMS Alert Hawaii Missile Warning [Re: LoneRanger] #4634333
01/14/18 09:51 AM
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People were freaking out until it was debunked, they were putting their kids in the the sewers to protect them. I heard people were running and screaming out of restaurants and stores.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMviz0EtrPI


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Re: Fake SMS Alert Hawaii Missile Warning [Re: LoneRanger] #4634351
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Perhaps the Hawaii Government needs to get their own house in order as they continue to rail against the U.S. government. I mean seriously..had a government official press the wrong button? Height of Hawaii gov incompetency.

The buton should have been under a flip-up clear cover guard.

Last edited by Al; 01/14/18 10:04 AM.

Re: Fake SMS Alert Hawaii Missile Warning [Re: LoneRanger] #4634356
01/14/18 10:02 AM
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On TV:
Saw people driving into tunnels and parking it.
Didn't see any people running and screaming.
What's the point? You are on an island. Go home or to the nearest bar and have a drink.


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Re: Fake SMS Alert Hawaii Missile Warning [Re: skyactiv] #4634374
01/14/18 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted By: skyactiv
And I also wonder if anyone took it seriously, thought they were going to die and said, honey we are on the beach, why don’t we go out with a bang


I’ve already read that “How many Missile Babies in 9 months”... wink

This thread title reads like an enquirer headline ...

And if it had been legitimate and people had not payed attention people would be saying they should have trusted the warning and taken action... Since it wasn’t a legitimate threat people are saying they should have spent some portion of their ~37 minute time to figure out if a governmental alert was real. (which enough to jam the 911 system apparently did).

It was apparently almost immediately recognized to be a mistake, but once that cat is out of the bag and all...

Quote:
U.S. Pacific Command has detected no ballistic missile threat to #Hawaii. Earlier message was sent in error and was a false alarm. pic.twitter.com/Lvg17VNjiF


What If Hawaii's False Missile Alert Had Been Real? Here's What Would Happen Next

Also for whatever reason it seems to have taken approximately the same amount of time it would take an ICBM to travel from NK to HI for the above to be delivered as an authentic emergency alert...

Re: Fake SMS Alert Hawaii Missile Warning [Re: LoneRanger] #4634388
01/14/18 10:25 AM
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local news here said the person responsible would not be fired and will receive additional training. I think that I can administer the training....step 1. dont ever push that button unless you are told by someone really really important. got it? training over


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