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Real life cold weather start #4634099
01/13/18 11:45 PM
01/13/18 11:45 PM
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North Dakota
tojo7089 Offline OP
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North Dakota
Thursday morning -29F here in North Dakota. No block heater. My 2006 Dodge Ram 1/2 ton cranked for about 2 seconds then fired right up.
Mobil 1 Extended Performance synthetic 0-20W.

Re: Real life cold weather start [Re: tojo7089] #4634102
01/13/18 11:56 PM
01/13/18 11:56 PM
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Waco, TX
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Waco, TX
I once hand-crank started a 1951 Farmall "M" in -34*F
with straight 30 in the sump,
and "summer gas" in the tank.

Beat that! grin grin2 LOL


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Real life cold weather start [Re: tojo7089] #4634106
01/14/18 12:05 AM
01/14/18 12:05 AM
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Deplorable in apple valley, ca
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How do you keep pipes and such from freezing and breaking at those temps? We have trouble @+25f.


02 Wrangler durablend 10w40
87 F250 traveler 15w40
04 Tahoe super-s 10w30
Z400 castrol T 10w40
Can am maveric edge 5w40
57 case tractor 15w40
Re: Real life cold weather start [Re: tojo7089] #4634107
01/14/18 12:10 AM
01/14/18 12:10 AM
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WI
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Pipes need to be pretty far in the ground and in the walls they need lots of insulation. Plus leave the water trickle. Doing that as I type in one of my bathrooms that's prone to getting frozen pipes.


15 Jeep KL Limited V6: Formula Shell 5W20
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Re: Real life cold weather start [Re: tojo7089] #4634129
01/14/18 12:35 AM
01/14/18 12:35 AM
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Kansan,1911 45ACP fan
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Kansan,1911 45ACP fan
I run 0 ethanol fuel and 0w20 Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0w20 with Ceratec.Starting is no issue at all.


15' Civic 179k.0w20 Redline/Archoil9100,Eibach,Yokohama/Borla Exhaust/Tein Suspension/Fu7317/Redline Si-1
Right to work state proud. Non union household
Re: Real life cold weather start [Re: tojo7089] #4634139
01/14/18 12:52 AM
01/14/18 12:52 AM
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S California
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It was 65F this morning and my V8 4Runner fired right up with 0w-30 synthetic.

In fact, I like the idea that the CPU starts the engine. You turn the key to start the process and the CPU takes over. You can keep the key turned or not. It makes no difference.

Re: Real life cold weather start [Re: Chris142] #4634150
01/14/18 01:33 AM
01/14/18 01:33 AM
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British Columbia, Canada
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British Columbia, Canada
Originally Posted By: Chris142
How do you keep pipes and such from freezing and breaking at those temps? We have trouble @+25f.

Houses are designed and built for that temperature, and lower. Water pipes and sewer lines are several feet underground. Walls and attics are well insulated. Water pipes are positioned so they have insulation behind them.

Soil freezes several feet down. You have to have footings for any foundation well below that depth in order not to have frost heaving - movement of the foundation with resulting shifting and cracking.

The strangest situation I know of was during a particularly cold winter in Winnipeg when many of the incoming water lines froze. I guess they just weren't deep enough. The city was still thawing out those lines in early summer. People ran garden hoses from their neighbours so they'd still have running water.

In Britain sewer lines are often on the outside of buildings. They can freeze up if temperatures are well below freezing for a few days.

Buildings are designed for the expected conditions. And if the conditions are outside the expectations, trouble can ensue.


2000 BMW 528i 5MT
2007 Honda Accord EX-L 4Door V6 6MT
Re: Real life cold weather start [Re: Chris142] #4634153
01/14/18 01:40 AM
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Waco, TX
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Originally Posted By: Chris142
How do you keep pipes and such from freezing and breaking at those temps? We have trouble @+25f.


In our farmhouse in North Dakota, The pipes (galvanized) were all in the basement (semi-heated). There was one section under the bathroom (crawlspace) that had troubles sometimes, but pipe insulation fixed it.

Pipes have to be buried 6' down.


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Real life cold weather start [Re: Chris142] #4634266
01/14/18 08:37 AM
01/14/18 08:37 AM
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wi
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Originally Posted By: Chris142
How do you keep pipes and such from freezing and breaking at those temps? We have trouble @+25f.
that's because you don't know how to build a house. Builders do a lot of stupid stuff in the south example running a inside pipe in an exterior wall.

Last edited by dave123; 01/14/18 08:38 AM.
Re: Real life cold weather start [Re: tojo7089] #4634380
01/14/18 10:18 AM
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minnesota
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We had -31f actual temp on our outdoor weather station last week, one morning. Central MN. All homes we've ever owned (7) have the water lines running under the footings of the foundation, at least 8' down. One year with little snow the frost went down almost 6' so some folks had issues but we never have. Our kitchen and bath water lines come up from the basement on the warm side of walls. The very old homes with poor insulation do that trick of letting water trickle out of faucets and open cabinet doors to let warm air around sinks. Heat tapes poorly installed cause a lot of fires but can work if monitored closely.
Coldest ever temp here was -56f in 1972, amazing that buses still picked up kids, school was not cancelled, life goes on.
I had a 74 Chevelle Laguna 400V8 sit in Duluth airport parking lot for a week in Jan of 1978, temps were below -20 every night. My car started but the first few cranks were sure scary but then it spun up and started, I was using Amsoil 10w-40. If the engines are tuned up, good gas, good battery, they should start as long as you dont have straight 60w oil in them smile

Re: Real life cold weather start [Re: tojo7089] #4634387
01/14/18 10:25 AM
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Florida
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32F outside this morning. 50s in my unheated garage. My Mazda 3 started right up with IDEMITSU 0w20 but man was the transmission gears crunchy for about 10 mins until they warmed up.


2014 Mazda 3 Hatch 2.0L & 6spd - Idemitsu 0w20 Synthetic @ $0.75 a quart. (thanks Advance Auto Parts for the awesome deal)
Re: Real life cold weather start [Re: tojo7089] #4634429
01/14/18 11:02 AM
01/14/18 11:02 AM
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Oshawa, Ontario Canada
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I've seen tv shows where the laundry rooms in Los Angeles are kept outside or in the garage. That's a no no everywhere else.


2015 Grand Caravan SXT Plus 5w-20 PPPP/Fram Ultra Filter
1997 Honda Civic CX 5w-30 Shell Conventional/Fram Ultra Filter
Re: Real life cold weather start [Re: dave123] #4634463
01/14/18 11:21 AM
01/14/18 11:21 AM
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Cincinnati
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Cincinnati
Originally Posted By: dave123
Originally Posted By: Chris142
How do you keep pipes and such from freezing and breaking at those temps? We have trouble @+25f.
that's because you don't know how to build a house. Builders do a lot of stupid stuff in the south example running a inside pipe in an exterior wall.


We run into this all winter in the resturant repair business. Many of these chains that originate in California and florida do not change the design of the buildings placed in the midwest and then all the pipes freeze and bust.


2008 Silverado Z71 LT 90k Maxlife FS 5w30
2010 Ford Escape 172k QSUD 5w20
2016 Yamaha XSR900 12k, Rotella 15w40 Yamaha Filter.
Re: Real life cold weather start [Re: tojo7089] #4634679
01/14/18 02:18 PM
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Nebraska
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Nebraska
My dad always used battery heaters on the battery back when we lived in Fargo back in 60;s and 70's. We had big V8 vehicles with 10w40 in the sump and they always cranked right up even in the -20 and -30 temps. He tried block heaters and even oil dipstick heaters , but liked the battery heaters best because that extreme cold would really sap the battery and the battery heater wrap was about 100 watts but enough to keep the battery in good shape. batteries are probably made better now with more CCA but still a battery heater is a good thing to have. Fairly cheap (about 25 to $30 at most any auto or farm store and easy to install. I have them on 2 of my vehicles, both Hyundais. I need to buy one for the forester.


2010 Forester:122K
2009 Sonata :189K
2010 Tucson:55K

OCI 5K using the cheapest dino oil I can buy,usually NAPA or TSC Travelers oil.
Re: Real life cold weather start [Re: tojo7089] #4634695
01/14/18 02:37 PM
01/14/18 02:37 PM
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Marshfield , MA
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I ran the house last weekend on road diesel. Not for the first time. No big deal, but the water at the bottom of the tank froze. Clearing the line was a PITN. Renovations are in order come summer. Cars running 0W20, no problems. At 7f, it took 4 pulls to light off the snowblower. I'm in better shape than usual.

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'16 Camry LE STP synth 0w20 and STP filter. the Fridge

1994 Ranger ,the Rat, 5w30 dino, STP filter

'16 Camry SE, Valvoline HM 0w20 and OEM filter
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